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JimR 1

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The following pertains to working for money not volunteering for an out of state (not a CA resident) worker and not a contractor just an every day John or Jane Doe.

Looking for information of any changes in the California requirement that if you earn income you need to get a CA driver's licence and vehicle registrations. I do know that income is taxable for state income tax and federal.

Looking to see if any new laws or exemptions are out there. I have not found any.

And has anyone done this recently.

I am currently volunteering in California now.

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Did you ask the people at the workplace you are looking at? They probably deal with it all the time.


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If you live and reside in a neighboring state but work in CA, so long as you are not using that vehicle as part of your employment (using it for business purposes), you are exempt from registering. I know several who live in AZ and work across the border in California and were told by CA DMV they are exempt so long as they are not making staying in CA a normal part of their life.

If you work in CA and actual reside in CA, or you establish CA as a place of residing (long term RV is included), or you get mail at a CA address, you must get a drivers license and vehicle registration as soon as you start working in the state. I think the key is you are not living or spending nights in CA while you work.

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agesilaus wrote:

Did you ask the people at the workplace you are looking at? They probably deal with it all the time.


No I have not as there are many but I will check with the one I am interested in.

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ItsyRV wrote:

If you live and reside in a neighboring state but work in CA, so long as you are not using that vehicle as part of your employment (using it for business purposes), you are exempt from registering. I know several who live in AZ and work across the border in California and were told by CA DMV they are exempt so long as they are not making staying in CA a normal part of their life.

If you work in CA and actual reside in CA, or you establish CA as a place of residing (long term RV is included), or you get mail at a CA address, you must get a drivers license and vehicle registration as soon as you start working in the state. I think the key is you are not living or spending nights in CA while you work.


I think you are correct in most of what is posted here as far as living in an adjoining state and working in CA, but there was a post I belive on this web forum about someone living in Reno that got ticketed for driving to work in CA. That was posted along time ago so who knows now.

I think the term long time is correct (6 months) and you are considered a resident, even if you are in a comma in the hospital.

I have in the past looked at the residency information on the states web site. There they state that more than one half a year (basically 6 months) or when you earn earned income then a drivers licence and registration is required.

As far as getting mail here that alone would not trigger a residency requirement.

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If your vehicle is licensed/registered in another State and your only in Calif on temporary basis (working or otherwise) it's unlikely you have to register your vehicle. State won't considered you a resident unless your there for prolonged period of time (366 days as I recall). If your just work camping for a few months I would not sweat it.


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Register as a Ca resident since you're living and working there. Why take a chance. If you get stopped by a cop expect a ticket otherwise.

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JimR 1 wrote:

I think you are correct in most of what is posted here as far as living in an adjoining state and working in CA, but there was a post I belive on this web forum about someone living in Reno that got ticketed for driving to work in CA. That was posted along time ago so who knows now.

I think the term long time is correct (6 months) and you are considered a resident, even if you are in a comma in the hospital.

I have in the past looked at the residency information on the states web site. There they state that more than one half a year (basically 6 months) or when you earn earned income then a drivers licence and registration is required.

As far as getting mail here that alone would not trigger a residency requirement.

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I called one of my friend who does this and he explained it this way. so long as you are just commuting, there is no requirement to convert to CA licensing or registration. He said that it would be an unworkable nightmare because you'll need to get a CA registration every morning because you work in CA but need to change back to a NV registration each night because you live in NV. Not possible.

There are triggers and these are when most get in trouble or ticketed. The biggest is if you use your personal vehicle in your CA work and stay in CA during your work. This means you may have a pickup you use in your work and crash at a friends house during the week while working, but go back to your state on weekends. The work, live and utilization rule on the vehicle would apply and require CA registration. The living rule may also be triggered as you're spending more days in CA than at home.

The other major one is the walk, talk and sound like a duck requirement. Pretty much if you do anything that makes officials think you're a CA resident, you may have made yourself one without realizing it. Things like applying for state benefits (other than employee interstate transferable benefits), having an official USPS change of Address to CA (unless a temp vacation like mailing), using resident discounts and services, etc etc. It's kinda common sense, but it can be tricky.

* This post was edited 02/19/20 12:24pm by ItsyRV *

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Ummm, I would check with your accountant. If you are going to register a car and a temp residence there could be HUGE tax consequences esp when dealing with California.

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