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Jeff1953 wrote:

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I wouldn't make a decision either way until you pick out the 5th wheel you are buying. Some 5th wheel frame manufacturers will void the warranty with the use of gooseneck adapters.


Warranty most likely won't be an issue, since we're looking at buying used. My main concern would be safety. Are the adapter inherently not as safe?


Not about safety as much as the, rare, but real possibility of damaging the FW frame in the pin box area. When you need to turn a stuck nut or bolt, do you grab a "cheater" to put on your wrench to give you more leverage? Think about adding an 18" "cheater" onto the kingpin that's bolted to the frame, and the additional torque that produces under acceleration or, more importantly, =deceleration=, on the frame. Given that the vast majority of FW frames are built to =just= carry the spec'd weights and dynamic forces, you certainly don't want to compromise them.

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Jeff1953 wrote:

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Put one of the underbed rail with turn over gooseball so you have both. Another option is just a turnover ball gooseneck & a B& W Companion that slips into the gooseneck ball shaft.
I use a Curt turnover gooseneck with a Curt X-Rail that mounts in the hole and use a B& W Patriot .
Really depends on how heavy a 5er your planning on. If real heavy look at the Traiersaver Airride hitches but B&W will take some really heavy ones also.


As luck would have it, I was actually looking at the B&W underbed mount gooseneck. I want to get the hitch before I have the bed Line-Xed. Most of the 5ers we've looked at so far are in the 9-11K dry weight range.


I had my bed lined before installing my own Turnover Ball. NBD to drill through the lining with a 4" hole saw. Given that I'm in AZ, I didn't worry about painting or coating the exposed edges of the 5 holes used for the TO Ball. :-)

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Have you already dismissed the idea of a turnover ball and an Anderson Ultimate Hitch? It's been ideal for me.


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Super_Dave wrote:

Have you already dismissed the idea of a turnover ball and an Anderson Ultimate Hitch? It's been ideal for me.


No, I haven't dismissed it, since I'd never heard of it. [emoticon] I just started looking at hitches. I'm new to the 5er market. That looks like a pretty nice setup. So, it allows you to tow both 5th wheel and gooseneck? (not at the same time, of course) How heavy is the base for removal purposes? Thanks.

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JMO.....5th wheel! memtb


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Howdy!

Been fulltiming fr 13 years and up unti last year he always used a 5er hitch with airgbags. When we purchased our new Chevrolet 3500 DRW 2L custom hauler I researched the Reece Goose Box. Been using te GB for a year now ad liked very much. I don’t see a reason to g back to a 5er hitch.

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Jeff1953 wrote:

Super_Dave wrote:

Have you already dismissed the idea of a turnover ball and an Anderson Ultimate Hitch? It's been ideal for me.


No, I haven't dismissed it, since I'd never heard of it. [emoticon] I just started looking at hitches. I'm new to the 5er market. That looks like a pretty nice setup. So, it allows you to tow both 5th wheel and gooseneck? (not at the same time, of course) How heavy is the base for removal purposes? Thanks.

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Jeff1953 wrote:


Warranty most likely won't be an issue, since we're looking at buying used. My main concern would be safety. Are the adapter inherently not as safe?


There is a reason they don't warranty it. It substantially increases the stress on the trailer frame. If they haven't accounted for it in the design, it could cause a failure.

Really not a big deal to pull the hitch...just leave it attached to the pinbox with the lock on and lift it out with the front of the trailer. Then leave it hang there...won't hurt a thing.


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https://www.pullrite.com/2600
Check out the PullRite Superlite hitch...same design as the Andersen.

I have GN and 5th wheel trailers so I have both hitch types for all my trucks.


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