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" I'm also 68 yo and I can still lift my B&W out, in one piece, and have a flat bed. Craig"

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

" I'm also 68 yo and I can still lift my B&W out, in one piece, and have a flat bed. Craig"

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Yeah, my thought too since that thing weights well over 200 lbs. in one piece. I don't have issues with lifting it out in two pieces, but no way with it all together. [emoticon]


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fj12ryder wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

" I'm also 68 yo and I can still lift my B&W out, in one piece, and have a flat bed. Craig"

Manly Man I say!
Yeah, my thought too since that thing weights well over 200 lbs. in one piece. I don't have issues with lifting it out in two pieces, but no way with it all together. [emoticon]



The 18k Companion is doable in one pc but why??? I certainly remove my RVK3600 in two pcs. I am a youngin at 62.

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sayoung wrote:

Put one of the underbed rail with turn over gooseball so you have both. Another option is just a turnover ball gooseneck & a B& W Companion that slips into the gooseneck ball shaft.


This is what we have. Our used truck already had the under the bed. B&W gooseneck mount. I found a used Companion on craigslist to use with. It's solid as a rock. Very well built. The only downside is it is very heavy when removing. But pull two pins and the head comes off the frame and then it's much easier to remove. Not a deal breaker for us as we tend to leave it in all summer unless I need to bed for hauling.


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I believe there is a good bit of apples vs. oranges conversation going on. I myself do not put an Andersen Ultimate or SuperLite 2600 in the "gooseneck" category. A gooseneck conversion is a whole different animal.
I think your best options are the Andersen Ultimate, SuperLite 2600, or Reese Goosebox. All require a gooseneck ball in the bed of the truck. If the truck does not have the OEM towing package with the pucks and a gooseneck ball socket, an underbed system will have to be installed. Typical is a B&W Turnover Ball. With a gooseneck ball you do not need the old style rails. The Andersen, PullRite SuperLite 2600 and Reese Goosebox go right on the ball. All you have to remove is the ball to have a clean bed. Takes longer to climb in the truck bed than to remove the ball.
The 5th you are shopping for is relatively light. Any of the 3 systems will work.
I personally like the simplicity of my SuperLite 2600 versus my previous conventional Curt hitch. I don't have an issue with the Andersen aluminum construction but the PullRite is steel. It is a bit heavier than Andersen but I can install and remove it easily at 69 yrs old and with 3 back surgeries.


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C Schomer wrote:

I had both kinds of trailers for a few years and I finally bought a kingpin post for the g-neck trailer cuz I quickly got tired of changing back and forth and I wasn't about to put a g-neck adaptor on the fiver. I'm also 68 yo and I can still lift my B&W out, in one piece, and have a flat bed. Craig


Craig's not saying that he lifts it out in one piece...with a hoist. [emoticon]

I'm 62 and can lift my Companion out in 2 pieces, but I also have a gym rat of a son-in-law, so, why? [emoticon] Only costs me a stop at the local growler store and I get to share. Saves my back and shoulders, too. I =will= do it, if I need to, though.

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I wonder if they still make Reese that mount on the bed rails. [emoticon]

My 15K Classic gets me down the road.

Now for the "how heavy is it" part.

If i am gonna park the camper for a while the hitch hangs on the king pin. At 76 plus I am not about to wrestle it in and out of the bed.

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I don't know how much you are going to tow your 5th wheel. But if you want the 5th wheel and truck to not be in a bind when you tow it. And you don't want to feel the 5th wheel or have stuff move around in the 5th wheel under normal towing. This does not include having to slam on the brakes . You need to buy a good air hitch. Either by Hensley or a airsafe hitch. When I bought my 5th wheel in 2006, I knew nothing about them . I had a cabover camper for 23 years while working. A friend of mine had a 5th wheel during that time and pulled his center console boat behind the 5th wheel going to the lake. He had a regular Reese hitch all that time till in 2006. He bought a 25k Airsafe hitch with the Binkley Holland Head. He told me that he isn't saying it is worth the money but he likes the ride. He forgot his soap bottle on the kitchen counter when he left the lake. And when he got home it was still sitting there. That was all I needed to know. I bought one and the first time we pulled the new 5th wheel . The wife said, you don't even know the 5th wheel is back their. Their is no strain on the 5th wheel or truck. The old saying you get what you pay for.You only have to spend the money once to be happy.

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Jeff1953 wrote:

sayoung wrote:

Put one of the underbed rail with turn over gooseball so you have both. Another option is just a turnover ball gooseneck & a B& W Companion that slips into the gooseneck ball shaft.
I use a Curt turnover gooseneck with a Curt X-Rail that mounts in the hole and use a B& W Patriot .
Really depends on how heavy a 5er your planning on. If real heavy look at the Traiersaver Airride hitches but B&W will take some really heavy ones also.


As luck would have it, I was actually looking at the B&W underbed mount gooseneck. I want to get the hitch before I have the bed Line-Xed. Most of the 5ers we've looked at so far are in the 9-11K dry weight range.


I would line-x it first, and not need to tape everything off, and they will not damage the liner when installing the turnover bracket.

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garyp4951 wrote:

Jeff1953 wrote:

sayoung wrote:

Put one of the underbed rail with turn over gooseball so you have both. Another option is just a turnover ball gooseneck & a B& W Companion that slips into the gooseneck ball shaft.
I use a Curt turnover gooseneck with a Curt X-Rail that mounts in the hole and use a B& W Patriot .
Really depends on how heavy a 5er your planning on. If real heavy look at the Traiersaver Airride hitches but B&W will take some really heavy ones also.


As luck would have it, I was actually looking at the B&W underbed mount gooseneck. I want to get the hitch before I have the bed Line-Xed. Most of the 5ers we've looked at so far are in the 9-11K dry weight range.


I would line-x it first, and not need to tape everything off, and they will not damage the liner when installing the turnover bracket.


I agree 100%. I installed my own TO Ball and helped my brother install his. Both our trucks had liner beforehand and had zero damage from the install and have had zero damage from our Companion hitches. (Doesn't mean that I haven't buggered up my liner from =other= use and abuse.) For a non-OEM GN/FW truck, there are 5 holes to drill; 1 4" hole for the ball mount and 4 1/2" holes for the safety chain loops. Just marked the liner and drilled right down through. I =did= spend the money on a 4" hole saw, and have used it several times for other projects, so it was money well spent.

Lyle

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