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valhalla360 wrote:

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What are you going to eat? What if you both get too sick to drive?


We normally have enough for a couple weeks eats and could stock up enough for a month if needed. Might not be the best culinary selection towards the end but no fear of starving.

The whole point would be not to get sick. If we are out isolated, there is no source to catch the virus.


It's the two-week incubation period that screws up this plan. You may have been exposed a few days ago. Today, you are contagious, but now and next week, and the week after, you still feel great. Perfectly healthy. Meanwhile, you have infected your whole family and the people at the grocery store. The people in Moab would prefer that you don't come there and infect them, when you stop for gas.


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dodge guy wrote:

Why does everyone think that 100% of the people will get deathly ill from Corona virus? Fact is to may have or had it and not even know about it. That is how little it will affect most people! Yes you need to be aware of things, but at the same time why act like he world is going to end!


It's a personal responsibility issue.

If you're over 70, there's a very high chance that you will get pneumonia from covid 19. But you probably won't die from the pneumonia, if you can get to the ICU within a few hours and if that ICU has a ventilator that is available to use on you. You may have permanent health consequences from the use of the ventilator. You may be permanently disabled, but you will be alive.

But the only way there's going to be a ventilator available for you is if everyone except you stays home and does their social distancing. You count on everyone else to sacrifice themselves, so that you can go camping. That's not really very personally responsible, is it?

We need to have the strength and integrity to stand up for ourselves and our community, here. We need to do what is right, even if it is not fun.

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Naio wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

Naio wrote:


What are you going to eat? What if you both get too sick to drive?


We normally have enough for a couple weeks eats and could stock up enough for a month if needed. Might not be the best culinary selection towards the end but no fear of starving.

The whole point would be not to get sick. If we are out isolated, there is no source to catch the virus.


It's the two-week incubation period that screws up this plan. You may have been exposed a few days ago. Today, you are contagious, but now and next week, and the week after, you still feel great. Perfectly healthy. Meanwhile, you have infected your whole family and the people at the grocery store. The people in Moab would prefer that you don't come there and infect them, when you stop for gas.


Given the current situation, very low probability that you take it with you, unless you have reason to believe you have been exposed already.

If it develops as expected, very high probability that staying in an urban area brings it to you.

Worst case at the early signs, drive in and park the rig in the hospital lot.


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dodge guy wrote:

Why does everyone think that 100% of the people will get deathly ill from Corona virus? Fact is to may have or had it and not even know about it. That is how little it will affect most people! Yes you need to be aware of things, but at the same time why act like he world is going to end!


Nobody thinks that. Those of us who have been following what the actual experts say realize that unless we take measures to slow the spread, our health system will be overwhelmed with sick people. When the hospitals are full and you have a heart attack, or get in a car wreck, who is going to care for you?


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We had a 6+ week cross country trip in April that included stops in Moab, Escalante, Kanab, Williams (AZ), NM, TX, and working our way back to NY.
Given the restrictions in Moab, the National Parks, State Park closures, and other attractions we wanted to see being closed we're canceling the trip. Maybe this fall we can get out.


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Naio wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

Naio wrote:


What are you going to eat? What if you both get too sick to drive?


We normally have enough for a couple weeks eats and could stock up enough for a month if needed. Might not be the best culinary selection towards the end but no fear of starving.

The whole point would be not to get sick. If we are out isolated, there is no source to catch the virus.


It's the two-week incubation period that screws up this plan. You may have been exposed a few days ago. Today, you are contagious, but now and next week, and the week after, you still feel great. Perfectly healthy. Meanwhile, you have infected your whole family and the people at the grocery store. The people in Moab would prefer that you don't come there and infect them, when you stop for gas.


x2, thats why Oregon shutdown their state parks today instead of April 2nd. Beach residents on the Oregon coast were complaining about the hoards of people coming to the coast.

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drsteve wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

Why does everyone think that 100% of the people will get deathly ill from Corona virus? Fact is to may have or had it and not even know about it. That is how little it will affect most people! Yes you need to be aware of things, but at the same time why act like he world is going to end!


Nobody thinks that. Those of us who have been following what the actual experts say realize that unless we take measures to slow the spread, our health system will be overwhelmed with sick people. When the hospitals are full and you have a heart attack, or get in a car wreck, who is going to care for you?


Now this puts into perspective, simple to understand and clearly where the immediate concerns exist at present.
This gameplan simply stalls the amount of patients that require care and allows for build-up of resources.
We may suffer some cabin fever but it'll work.

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kellem wrote:

drsteve wrote:

Nobody thinks that. Those of us who have been following what the actual experts say realize that unless we take measures to slow the spread, our health system will be overwhelmed with sick people. When the hospitals are full and you have a heart attack, or get in a car wreck, who is going to care for you?
Now this puts into perspective, simple to understand and clearly where the immediate concerns exist at present.
Exactly.

It's not just about the mortality, it's all the "injured" we have to deal with, and the danger to the health-care workers themselves. It's a nightmare. I'm going to need surgery in the next couple months, and I'm pretty scared not only about not being able to get it, but picking up the virus in the hospital.

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The industry concern is not for itself, but for you max. No longer a camp owner


Congratulations on your retirement. I think you were sagacious to leave when you did.

Covid 19 is a game changer. I wish I had a few bucks to invest!



MODERATOR'S EDIT: Per the site Admin's request, I am closing all COVID-19 threads and directing future comments to one thread in Around the Campfire.



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