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Posted: 03/22/20 12:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm interested in the 30 ft 1/2 ton tow-able 5th wheel from Grand Design's Reflection brand. Problem is the trailer sits too low for my standard 2019 Ram 2500 4x4 short bed truck. MORryde has a suspension kit (SRE 4000) that I believe raises the axles two inches. Larger rims would raise it up an additional inch, giving me a total of three inches which might be enough without compromising the overhang with the bed rails.
Anyone have the same problem and how did you resolve it? Thanks.

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Many people raise their campers by "flipping the axles" to get the height they need. I've considered doing it myself but my trailer is high enough as it is. I did lower my pickup a little bit and that helped kinda split the baby and I left it alone after that.

I think you should be much more concerned that the manufacturer's claims of "1/2 ton tow-able" are nonsense and that you likely lack sufficient payload to pull any 5th wheel that big with your truck, especially if it has a 4 door cab, 4wd, and you plan on having passengers in the cab with you.

Larger rims are not going to raise the trailer at all unless they are combined with taller tires. Taller tires will likely not fit because the axle spacing is such that the taller tires will be too close to each other and could even touch when the suspension cycles. If taller tires were the solution, people wouldn't be making drastic suspension modifications to get the height they need.

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Grand Design generally builds a quality trailer and quality means heavy, or at least heavier than a cheaply built trailer of the same size.

Do NOT believe any truck sales person who says "You can pull that with this truck." They are "misinformed". Second only to trailer sales person who says "You can pull this with your current truck."

You know the GEICO commercial where the speaker's nose keeps growing?? That is what the sales people look like by the end of the day!


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How much room are you looking to gain?

Look under the trailer at the axles. If it has leaf springs and they are under the axle then you can add a kit to put the springs on top. This will gain you about 6 inches (the thickness of the axle plus the thickness of the spring pack) Dexter makes a kit for this.
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Do remember that any other lift methods have to be divided in half. A tire that is one inch taller only lifts the trailer by 1/2 inch. It's the same with a longer shackle. A 1 inch longer shackle on one end of the spring pack adds only 1/2 inch to the ride height.


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opnspaces has the ticket you are searching for.

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twodownzero wrote:


I think you should be much more concerned that the manufacturer's claims of "1/2 ton tow-able" are nonsense and that you likely lack sufficient payload to pull any 5th wheel that big with your truck, especially if it has a 4 door cab, 4wd, and you plan on having passengers in the cab with.


He’s not towing it with a half ton, just looking at “ half ton towable” models. OP has a Ram 2500 which is plenty of truck.


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I’ve seen a few newer 2500 Rams towing “Lite” fifthwheels with out any problems. The least heavy reflection has almost 1500 lb pin weight dry translating close to if not over 2,000. I think you will find it squatS your Ram an inch or two. I believe your only worry might be bed clearance.





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Road Phantom wrote:

I'm interested in the 30 ft 1/2 ton tow-able 5th wheel from Grand Design's Reflection brand. Problem is the trailer sits too low for my standard 2019 Ram 2500 4x4 short bed truck. MORryde has a suspension kit (SRE 4000) that I believe raises the axles two inches. Larger rims would raise it up an additional inch, giving me a total of three inches which might be enough without compromising the overhang with the bed rails.
Anyone have the same problem and how did you resolve it? Thanks.


Check to see if you have spacers in your truck's suspension. If so, they can be removed to lower your truck. Might have to do the front axle, too.

While doing an axle flip is the easiest, it's been a long time since I've seen a FW that didn't leave the factory with the axles under the springs.

One thing not mentioned, is to be sure that the spring hangers are in the lowest holes, if you have them and they're not already done.

A Correct Track alignment system will give you 2" of lift, provided you can find one. I've heard they've been discontinued, though they were still listed on LCI's web site as of a month ago, or so.

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The MorRyde SRE4000 with the X-Factor brace is a good set up, or what I did was the Correct Track, and the X-Factor brace on the center hanger.

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camp-n-family wrote:

twodownzero wrote:


I think you should be much more concerned that the manufacturer's claims of "1/2 ton tow-able" are nonsense and that you likely lack sufficient payload to pull any 5th wheel that big with your truck, especially if it has a 4 door cab, 4wd, and you plan on having passengers in the cab with.


He’s not towing it with a half ton, just looking at “ half ton towable” models. OP has a Ram 2500 which is plenty of truck.


I looked up the published weights on their website, and my common sense determined that to be a lie.

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