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azdryheat

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Posted: 03/26/20 10:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Fortunately in AZ and Tucson there are no stay at home orders. So far we spent a couple of days doing some non-essential RZR riding, I worked 3 days this week at my non-essential part-time job at the RV dealership, and we're doing a few days of non-essential camping/RZR riding next week. Basically we are not staying home and are trying to live the same life we would without this over-hyped flu bug.

One other thought: What authority does a politician have to force people to stay home? Inspite of this so-called virus emergency we still have Constitutional Rights to move freely about the US and to freely assemble. A governor or mayor does not have the right to restrict our movements. My daughter's family was in California this past week for a vacation and the governor closed the public beaches. Cops were posted to force compliance. Did the governor have the legal authority to do that? Hopefully, someone will challenge the governors actions as being unconstitutional.

I understand that there are perceived measures to fight this virus but the Constitution needs to regarded and We-the-People need to stand up to and fight politicians who insist on taking away our Constitutional Rights. If they feel they can violate our rights during this period they will violate our rights in other situations.


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Posted: 03/27/20 05:28am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Looks kike some folks don't get it and probably never will. COVID-19 crosses political lines every where.


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azdryheat wrote:

Fortunately in AZ and Tucson there are no stay at home orders. So far we spent a couple of days doing some non-essential RZR riding, I worked 3 days this week at my non-essential part-time job at the RV dealership, and we're doing a few days of non-essential camping/RZR riding next week. Basically we are not staying home and are trying to live the same life we would without this over-hyped flu bug.

One other thought: What authority does a politician have to force people to stay home? Inspite of this so-called virus emergency we still have Constitutional Rights to move freely about the US and to freely assemble. A governor or mayor does not have the right to restrict our movements. My daughter's family was in California this past week for a vacation and the governor closed the public beaches. Cops were posted to force compliance. Did the governor have the legal authority to do that? Hopefully, someone will challenge the governors actions as being unconstitutional.

I understand that there are perceived measures to fight this virus but the Constitution needs to regarded and We-the-People need to stand up to and fight politicians who insist on taking away our Constitutional Rights. If they feel they can violate our rights during this period they will violate our rights in other situations.

This is not about the constitution This is about saving lives
It maybe hard for you to grasp but people in NYC are dying.
Just like Italy the NYC health system is overwhelmed
THe fear is that unless we control the spread by staying put, other regions will have there system overwhelmed
You call it an over hyped flu but its not just about the flu
Once the hospitals become overwhelmed it becomes hard to be treated for anything else
If you show up at the hospital with an ailment other than the virus there is literally no where to put you No Doctors to treat you in a timely fashion etc. The medical system at NYC hospitals is collapsing. If the virus continues to spread other area health systems will also collapse due to virus cases Meanwhile almost in the back ground people continue to die.
So before you rush to the courts with constitutional arguments keep in mind the court system in MD is closed.
The entire state is closed as much as feasible.
I hope you understand it just no about catching the flu. It's more about spreading the flu Some can get it and have minimal symptoms while some will have devastating symptoms. As it spreads many will require hospitalization. We simply don't have the medical resources to handle the virus and everything else!
This would not be a good time to have a major ailment, because getting treatment maybe hard to do. But be forewarned the shut down is for real there are major areas of the country both rural and urban that are closed

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Posted: 03/27/20 08:37am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

azdryheat is a pot stirrer. He loves to agitate posters that read his misinformed posts. He will also be the first to blame congress when he or his family get sick and can't find a hospital or a Dr. to help him. Karma will take care care of him so just ignore his posts.

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You guys that are turning this into a political authority rant are truly off your rockers.
It's easy to get frustrated with the "mandates" that are in place and you have every right to not follow them, whether it's being rebellious just because you're still an ignorant teenager in an old man's body, (actually ignorant is the wrong word, it would imply that you don't know any better) or if you're responsibly policing yourself.

But none of you numbnuts you are spouting off are admitting that you're not even remotely smart enough to grasp any of the magnitude or gravity of what's going on, simply by your cavalier statements.


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And the answer to the original question from 12 pages ago is "YES."
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Posted: 03/27/20 10:46am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

One thing this virus thing has accomplished is to bring out a lot of opinions. Some quite goofy. Why will it hurt us to wash our hands and observe good hygiene for a few months? It may only save a few lives, but one of them might be mine. Or yours.

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Denial and anger are the first stages of grief. We are all grieving the loss of the world we knew.

Remember, COVID is contagious for up to 14 days before a person has any symptoms at all. Stay home and away from the people who aren't being careful, even if they look perfectly healthy.


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If I was the OP and concerned about catching the virus, the last place I would want to go right now is the New York metro area which has by far the most cases. Why not just hang out where you are for a bit.

I can say that there was a guy charged with violating the stay at home order here in Ohio locally and I can also say the guy went to jail. (See how juicy it is when I leave out certain details like the typical media report?) The rest of the story is he was arrested at Target for shoplifting about $800 worth of Apple stuff and they just tacked the stay at home violation on top since shoplifting is not an essential activity. I'm sure it will all be plea bargained away anyhow.

Did anyone happen to catch the news that the guy who did the study in the UK that stated 2 million dead in the US if we don't do anything has revised his numbers? You know, that study that triggered the whole world to go into lockdown? Yeah...... he says he may have made a mistake with his calculations and revised his number to 20,000, less than even a minor flu season. Headline news on CNN and MSNBC I bet. No?? This is a nasty bug, but not nearly as bad as we have been led to believe. The numbers are not following the worst case scenario many have been swallowing whole. It will be OK, this will pass and soon.

On a side note about the RV net crowd, just an observation. The ones most concerned and calling for the most strict solutions about the virus in this thread are the same folks who think we might only have 12 years left anyway. Hmmmmm





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folks who think we might only have 12 years left anyway


I don't even know what this means. It must be some dog whistle my ears are not tuned to hear.

In other news, and in a typical extreme flip-flop, our fearless leader is now tweeting that we need to immediately manufacture a gazillion ventilators.

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