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olfarmer wrote:

This is so sad and I feel for all campground owners and everyone else that has their income cut off by this terrible virus. I do believe it is and should be a national emergency!


Unfortunately there are way to many stupid brain dead people that don't see it as the national emergency that it is. Thus putting all the intelligent people at risk.

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Boon Docker wrote:

olfarmer wrote:

This is so sad and I feel for all campground owners and everyone else that has their income cut off by this terrible virus. I do believe it is and should be a national emergency!


Unfortunately there are way to many stupid brain dead people that don't see it as the national emergency that it is. Thus putting all the intelligent people at risk.


80.000 people died in the U.S. in 2017 of the flu! Which we have a vaccination for. And 22,000 have died of COVID-19 so far. Even if you keep that rate up it’s going to be less. So I don’t remember a national emergency in 2017!


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Boon Docker wrote:

Unfortunately there are way to many stupid brain dead people that don't see it as the national emergency that it is. Thus putting all the intelligent people at risk.
Those intelligent people that you reference, are those the one that predicted 2.2 milllion deaths in the US, then decided they were wrong and revised it to 1 Million, then 200,000, then 100,000, then 60,000; are those the intelligent people you're referring to? Or are you referring to the sheeple that believe everything they say? The Governors took away people basic constitutional rights based on proven flawed information. Then rather than admit they were wrong, they doubled down.

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bid_time wrote:

Boon Docker wrote:

Unfortunately there are way to many stupid brain dead people that don't see it as the national emergency that it is. Thus putting all the intelligent people at risk.
Those intelligent people that you reference, are those the one that predicted 2.2 milllion deaths in the US, then decided they were wrong and revised it to 1 Million, then 200,000, then 100,000, then 60,000; are those the intelligent people you're referring to? Or are you referring to the sheeple that believe everything they say? The Governors took away people basic constitutional rights based on proven flawed information. Then rather than admit they were wrong, they doubled down.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin




Sorry nobody has had practice at containing a pandemic before this one. Perhaps some consideration of the effect of social distancing, mask wearing, and closing/limiting business may have had on the original modeling done 6 weeks ago is in order. "Prepare for the worst, hope for the best" Benjamin Disraeli

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cptqueeg wrote:

bid_time wrote:

Boon Docker wrote:

Unfortunately there are way to many stupid brain dead people that don't see it as the national emergency that it is. Thus putting all the intelligent people at risk.
Those intelligent people that you reference, are those the one that predicted 2.2 milllion deaths in the US, then decided they were wrong and revised it to 1 Million, then 200,000, then 100,000, then 60,000; are those the intelligent people you're referring to? Or are you referring to the sheeple that believe everything they say? The Governors took away people basic constitutional rights based on proven flawed information. Then rather than admit they were wrong, they doubled down.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin




Sorry nobody has had practice at containing a pandemic before this one. Perhaps some consideration of the effect of social distancing, mask wearing, and closing/limiting business may have had on the original modeling done 6 weeks ago is in order. "Prepare for the worst, hope for the best" Benjamin Disraeli
When you start publishing for public consumption about over 2 million people dying, you better be a little closer than off by 2.1 million lives.
But the whole point of my post was, that the governors relied on flawed info, then when they found out it was flawed instead of rethinkig their draconian measures, they doubled down.
Welcome to the 2nd Great Depression, enjoy your trip.

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bid_time wrote:

The Governors took away people basic constitutional rights
[emoticon]Really? Maybe you could provide a specific example with reference to the Constitution?





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When you start publishing for public consumption about over 2 million people dying, you better be a little closer than off by 2.1 million lives.

That estimate was from London. I'm sure the 2.2M was what they felt would happen w Trump in charge after he said cv19 was going to disappear by April. In reality that estimate opened people's eyes to the potential disaster had we continued sitting on our hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svrxYLvJYto

Instead many mayors and governors stepped in and slowed the spread.

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shelbyfv wrote:

bid_time wrote:

The Governors took away people basic constitutional rights
[emoticon]Really? Maybe you could provide a specific example with reference to the Constitution?
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[emoticon] That's a stretch and it's well established that the government has the authority to isolate and quarantine, etc in a public health emergency. We've had a couple of hundred years of better minds than ours parsing the Constitution. Clearly things don't always mean what we think they do at a casual glance. Carry on.

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cptqueeg wrote:

When you start publishing for public consumption about over 2 million people dying, you better be a little closer than off by 2.1 million lives.

That estimate was from London. I'm sure the 2.2M was what they felt would happen w Trump in charge after he said cv19 was going to disappear by April. In reality that estimate opened people's eyes to the potential disaster had we continued sitting on our hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svrxYLvJYto

Instead many mayors and governors stepped in and slowed the spread.


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You think they fudged the numbers because Trump is in charge? Please!

The mayors and governors are exactly who should have stepped in to provide local control base on their local information. If a state does not take responsibility then the feds should step in. I am not sure why so many think it should be different.


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