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Bought a new fifth wheel ,new to us anyway. Bought from a friend , he had negotiated a trade in for a new 2020, and of course they were not giving him anything near what it was worth, I offered to buy it for that, and he said why not. Only thing was he was going to remove the upgraded suspension ,and put the stock one back on, and the upgraded one on his new fifth wheel, I agreed to pay him the extra, and leave it on ,and he could buy a new upgrade for his . The upgrade on it was pretty new.

Anyway to the disc brakes that are on this one I bought from him, this is our four fifth wheel, never towed with disc brakes ( no I didn't have to pay him extra for that upgrade, he ate that [emoticon] ) Never dreamed how nice they are, between that upgraded suspension ,and disc brakes ,it was an absolute pleasure to tow. I thought my old Montana with the MorRyde suspension , and pin box towed pretty good , but not as good as this one. And this one has the standard pin box, but smooth as glass.

I will have to say anyone that is considering disc brakes ,and have never towed with them, you have no idea what you are missing, and would highly recommend them. Sure convinced me how effect they are. Can't say I was skeptical, just didn't have any experience with them on a fifth wheel. Thought about it on my Montana ,but just never got around to it, and the older it got the less money I wanted to spend on it.

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Pics??? What upgrade??? MORryde???

NOTHING better than Disk Brakes. Anyone saying Drums are just as good, well......

Your buddy did get scrued as he did not get the trade in value removed from his total cost so he could have saved Sales Tax on the trade amount.

I had a friend sell me his 98 12V for what Dave Smith would have paid him on trade. I asked what about the sales tax he would have saved??? He said I would rather you have it! Good Friend!!!


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+1 on all that was said. I will go on to say anyone considering a brake job should be thinking to put the money toward disk brake install.


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Pics??? What upgrade??? MORryde???

NOTHING better than Disk Brakes. Anyone saying Drums are just as good, well......

Your buddy did get scrued as he did not get the trade in value removed from his total cost so he could have saved Sales Tax on the trade amount.

I had a friend sell me his 98 12V for what Dave Smith would have paid him on trade. I asked what about the sales tax he would have saved??? He said I would rather you have it! Good Friend!!!
As I have stated before, unless you check with your state DMV, you don't know that you couldn't have applied the money you received to lower the sales tax. That is the way it works in Missouri which I didn't know for quite a few years. You have to fill out the forms as to how much you received when you sold it, and that applies to the price that was paid for the new unit. Sales tax is reduced accordingly.


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I completely went thru mine last fall. I changed out to QUALITY oil bath system with EBC Yellow pads. The increase in braking is unbelievable. Kodiak 8k system on my MORryde IS system. If you don't understand how "Oil Bath" seal works check it out. NOT cheap I paid $24 each on AMAZON for the ones I listed.

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fj12ryder wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Pics??? What upgrade??? MORryde???

NOTHING better than Disk Brakes. Anyone saying Drums are just as good, well......

Your buddy did get scrued as he did not get the trade in value removed from his total cost so he could have saved Sales Tax on the trade amount.

I had a friend sell me his 98 12V for what Dave Smith would have paid him on trade. I asked what about the sales tax he would have saved??? He said I would rather you have it! Good Friend!!!
As I have stated before, unless you check with your state DMV, you don't know that you couldn't have applied the money you received to lower the sales tax. That is the way it works in Missouri which I didn't know for quite a few years. You have to fill out the forms as to how much you received when you sold it, and that applies to the price that was paid for the new unit. Sales tax is reduced accordingly.


It's a "DEPENDS" thingy!!! Have not heard of a place that charges sales tax not crediting the trade value. But it's possible I could be wrong.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Pics??? What upgrade??? MORryde???

NOTHING better than Disk Brakes. Anyone saying Drums are just as good, well......

Your buddy did get scrued as he did not get the trade in value removed from his total cost so he could have saved Sales Tax on the trade amount.

I had a friend sell me his 98 12V for what Dave Smith would have paid him on trade. I asked what about the sales tax he would have saved??? He said I would rather you have it! Good Friend!!!


What we did was the dealer suggested an in and out, and I would buy from the dealer for the agreed price , it didn't dawn on either of us, and I had done that once before selling a truck to a friend, and did an in ,and out with a dealer for the agreed price . I payed the agreed price to the dealer where he traded it in , in Texas , it did cost me a couple hundred extra for their processing fee's , not a problem there. It was a great deal on the fifth wheel, and the savings on taxes to the friend.

The suspension upgrade was the Comfort Ride by Roadmaster, with shocks. I don't know much about it, this friend belongs to a Heartland group. I actually helped him in Arizona last winter install it on another members fifth wheel, a bunch of them went to it. I do know its a slip spring leaf spring suspension with shocks. The fifth wheel rides ,and takes the bumps ,and overpasses much better then my old Montana with the MorRyde . They are both nearly the same dry weight ,with the same GVWR 15,500

When this deal got started in early March we were together in Arizona, he was headed to Texas on the 16th of March to get his new one ,he is a full timer ,and I was going home to Utah, and put mine up for sale. If I got mine sold in a reasonable time I would go to Texas to buy his old one. Mine sold pretty quick, but with whats going on I didn't want to go all the way to Texas. So I had it transported to Cheyenne , Wy, that was as close as I could get them to come from Texas , then he headed to Indiana to pick up a new fifth to deliver to the dealer we were dealing with ,it worked out pretty well. Still a 900mile round trip for me ,not bad . It would of been nearly 3000 miles .

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fj12ryder wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Pics??? What upgrade??? MORryde???

NOTHING better than Disk Brakes. Anyone saying Drums are just as good, well......

Your buddy did get scrued as he did not get the trade in value removed from his total cost so he could have saved Sales Tax on the trade amount.

I had a friend sell me his 98 12V for what Dave Smith would have paid him on trade. I asked what about the sales tax he would have saved??? He said I would rather you have it! Good Friend!!!
As I have stated before, unless you check with your state DMV, you don't know that you couldn't have applied the money you received to lower the sales tax. That is the way it works in Missouri which I didn't know for quite a few years. You have to fill out the forms as to how much you received when you sold it, and that applies to the price that was paid for the new unit. Sales tax is reduced accordingly.


It's a "DEPENDS" thingy!!! Have not heard of a place that charges sales tax not crediting the trade value. But it's possible I could be wrong.


You are not wrong, it applies in Texas ,and Utah, Now the in ,and out in Utah not sure that works anymore here, it was years ago I did it .

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fj12ryder wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Pics??? What upgrade??? MORryde???

NOTHING better than Disk Brakes. Anyone saying Drums are just as good, well......

Your buddy did get scrued as he did not get the trade in value removed from his total cost so he could have saved Sales Tax on the trade amount.

I had a friend sell me his 98 12V for what Dave Smith would have paid him on trade. I asked what about the sales tax he would have saved??? He said I would rather you have it! Good Friend!!!
As I have stated before, unless you check with your state DMV, you don't know that you couldn't have applied the money you received to lower the sales tax. That is the way it works in Missouri which I didn't know for quite a few years. You have to fill out the forms as to how much you received when you sold it, and that applies to the price that was paid for the new unit. Sales tax is reduced accordingly.


No forms here in Utah , you trade in a vehicle ,they subtract the trade in value , you pay the sales tax on the difference not the purchase price of the new vehicle , thats done right at the dealer, and you are done ,and licensed .

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Exciting, isn't it !! !! I was floored the first tie I towed with discs back on my 08 KZ fifth Wheel...


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