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Well over 300,000 cases with almost 12,000 deaths in the US, and you think Texas is wrong for trying to protect people who are too stupid to take common sense precautions on their own?

Stupid are the people who jumped on the "stay at home" bandwagon without thinking about the secondary effects of their plan. There is going to be huge unemployment from this and some people will turn to alcohol and other drugs and some will die. But you don't care about them. You will trade their lives for the 1% who might die from this virus. And you think you are compassionate.

It's not even close to 1%. Even the totally pessimistic, constantly updating models from IMHE are only "predicting" 0.025% (less than 3 hundredths of 1 percent). All of the doom and gloom predictions of death rate have done nothing but go down and down with "better data".

The data is showing that even NY has passed its peak and on the decline. Texas is WAY too late, as were most every single state issuing these orders. There is literally no point in the action Texas took now.

In the end this whole thing will be a big waste of livelihood and economic health.

Guess which "recovered" country will come out far ahead in all of this after buying up our crashed stock market?



I guess you don't quite understand this "decline". It means, instead of 10,000 daily getting infected DAILY....only 9,000 are. Instead of 100 dying DAILY, only 90 are dying. That's still not good. That's still not a good enough reason to let YOU do whatever it is that satisfies YOU alone. There is a reason why these rules are put in place. That reason is to make it safe for YOU.

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DallasSteve wrote:

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Well over 300,000 cases with almost 12,000 deaths in the US, and you think Texas is wrong for trying to protect people who are too stupid to take common sense precautions on their own?

But you don't care about them. You will trade their lives for the 1% who might die from this virus. And you think you are compassionate.


Dont put words into my mouth I didnt say!

I do know a guy who recently retired who has the virus. His wife just died from it. My son's friend, who recently lost his father to cancer has a mother who is fighting for her life because of the virus.

This is real! The stupidity of some people nsver ceases to amaze me.

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Texas is currently 12th in the US for number of cases 8,262 and has had 154 deaths. And 0.3% of the states population has been tested. Wait two weeks and check the numbers again. Maybe you will change your views at that time.


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DallasSteve wrote:

jfkmk wrote:

Well over 300,000 cases with almost 12,000 deaths in the US, and you think Texas is wrong for trying to protect people who are too stupid to take common sense precautions on their own?

Stupid are the people who jumped on the "stay at home" bandwagon without thinking about the secondary effects of their plan. There is going to be huge unemployment from this and some people will turn to alcohol and other drugs and some will die. But you don't care about them. You will trade their lives for the 1% who might die from this virus. And you think you are compassionate.


Stupid are the people that can't understand that staying at home will help slow the spread of this pandemic. It is just bloody common sense , which a lot of people don't seem to possess.

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Posted: 04/07/20 11:47am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

To everybody...... calling names is not helping anything. We can present opinions and facts with degrading others for their choices. Regardless of how good or bad we may think they are.

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I guess you don't quite understand this "decline". It means, instead of 10,000 daily getting infected DAILY....only 9,000 are. Instead of 100 dying DAILY, only 90 are dying. That's still not good. That's still not a good enough reason to let YOU do whatever it is that satisfies YOU alone. There is a reason why these rules are put in place. That reason is to make it safe for YOU.

People dying is a tragedy and I know there is real suffering but I prefer decisions are made with sound data versus emotion. Some things in life are simply not in our control, despite our human nature to assume we can "fix" everything. The virus is on the decline because that is what it naturally does, with our without our help. The curves were already flattening before the shelter-in-place orders had an effect. The debate isn't whether to sacrifice to save lives, it's whether the sacrifice (with its high cost) actually saves any. As one example, domestic abuse is up. Am I to have any less compassion for those people?

Here's some interesting reading. There's even a section on NY:

https://www.professorhinkley.com/blog/why-is-oregon-still-on-lock-down

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Well over 300,000 cases with almost 12,000 deaths in the US, and you think Texas is wrong for trying to protect people who are too stupid to take common sense precautions on their own?
You know the normal flu we all get year after year? Well, according to the CDC, in the past 6 months there have been 24,000-63,000 deaths. That's from the regular flu bug! Where's all the hysteria? Why weren't we doing all that social distancing and feel-good stuff for the regular flu? Any answers?

Yet the beer bug is getting all the attention and causing all the panic.


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Threads like this is just another troll thread from a person we all know how he feels about the COVID-19 issues facing our country.

Like the doctor just said " 10000 dead folks from COVID-19 in just over 5 weeks.... will far surpass annual death rates from any flu bug.

Texas GOV finally woke up to real facts about COVID-19.


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jdc1 wrote:

wnjj wrote:

DallasSteve wrote:

jfkmk wrote:

Well over 300,000 cases with almost 12,000 deaths in the US, and you think Texas is wrong for trying to protect people who are too stupid to take common sense precautions on their own?

Stupid are the people who jumped on the "stay at home" bandwagon without thinking about the secondary effects of their plan. There is going to be huge unemployment from this and some people will turn to alcohol and other drugs and some will die. But you don't care about them. You will trade their lives for the 1% who might die from this virus. And you think you are compassionate.

It's not even close to 1%. Even the totally pessimistic, constantly updating models from IMHE are only "predicting" 0.025% (less than 3 hundredths of 1 percent). All of the doom and gloom predictions of death rate have done nothing but go down and down with "better data".

The data is showing that even NY has passed its peak and on the decline. Texas is WAY too late, as were most every single state issuing these orders. There is literally no point in the action Texas took now.

In the end this whole thing will be a big waste of livelihood and economic health.

Guess which "recovered" country will come out far ahead in all of this after buying up our crashed stock market?



I guess you don't quite understand this "decline". It means, instead of 10,000 daily getting infected DAILY....only 9,000 are. Instead of 100 dying DAILY, only 90 are dying. That's still not good. That's still not a good enough reason to let YOU do whatever it is that satisfies YOU alone. There is a reason why these rules are put in place. That reason is to make it safe for YOU.


YOU can limit your exposure all YOU want to. YOU don’t need government approval or anyone’s permission. Go right ahead. Just stop with the hysteria that we’re all going kill each other. Texas is nothing like NYC in geography, cultural behavior, or climate. Some of us don’t believe one cure fits all. And the cure is already worse than the disease. Some fail to comprehend that an economic depression will destroy more lives than this virus ever will.


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Tom N wrote:

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The last bastion of sanity has jumped on the "stay at home" bandwagon. They just sent me an email that they have closed all state parks to save the 1% who may die from the dreaded super virus. Texas was once a great state.


What if your family contracts this virus?
All the odds and real experience say they'll be just fine. Just like nearly everyone else.


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