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Posted: 04/08/20 07:24pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cummins12V98 wrote:

azrving wrote:

The effort is purportedly an effort to get employees of critical jobs back to work


Employees of critical jobs ARE WORKING. !!!



Tell that to the author of the article. Maybe you didn’t read it.

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About **** time.

Part of me wants them to keep the shutdown long enough that they totally fork the economy so bad that they never do something this idiotic again.

I know the fatties and the smokers are scared to death of this 1% virus, and they should be, but it's not my fault that they make bad choices.





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agesilaus wrote:

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The states still control this tho but I would expect a lot of states to follow the suggestions. Not the Plague Centers tho. So maybe we will be able to RV again.

We are going out to find some cotton material that can be used to make washable masks. They recommend the stuff like tee shirts are made of. 6 or 8 layers. It will not stop viruses but will stop spray from coughs and sneezes.

Proper Anti Covid mask should be water proof on outside but
Any mask is better then nothing imo
I use simple dust proof mask from H.D.because there isnt anything else available

If you want to make your own heres a plan

https://soranews24.com/2020/03/06/100-ye........us-how-to-make-our-own-cloth-face-masks/

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The revised guidance has been published.

It only applies to returning 'essential workers' previously exempt from stay at home orders to the work place.

This is only for people who were exposed to COVID-19 and were taken out of the workforce because of is exposure. They can return to the 'essential' workforce as long as social distancing guidelines are still followed. The employee takes their temperature twice and day and continues to show no symptions.

The impacts mainly people who were told to 'self quarantine'.

It seems to me that the recommendation includes that ALL employees should have their temperature taken at the start of their shift, and sent home if they have a fever, cough or any other possible symptom.

Doesn't impact the rest of us.

(Source is Fox News)

EDIT - Updated CDC Critical Workers Guidance


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Nearly a third of apartment renters failed to pay April rent, per the WSJ today.


49 States, 6 Provinces, 2 Territories...

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And one was my granddaughter. About 1/3 of her income was from a part-time job in a restaurant, which is gone now.

She is employed full-time by an insurance agency. So the seven work days she missed in March because her boss said a runny nose might be corona virus - were with no pay. And the business is so small that in Texas she doesn't qualify for unemployment.

At least now she's working from home and getting her full hours, though the boss is saying he might need to cut her to 20 hours per week.

Again, she will not qualify for unemployment.

Her fiancé's job in a maintenance/ cleaning of offices is gone. Since he was not full time - no unemployment in Texas.

We have been helping with what we can, as has her brother who is fulltime and still working, and her mother whose job is full-time from home. Unfortunately, her stepfather an independent insurance adjuster, roofing contractor lead, is not getting any work.

At least granddaughter was able to pay 80% of her rent, so her increasing debt to company isn't too bad.

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The “flattening the curve” is hocus pocus, feel good math. All it means is that people are staying home and not getting infected. It doesn’t mean the virus is going away.

A golfer hits golf balls into the pond every-time he plays. If he quits playing, it’s a safe bet he will lose less golf balls. The pond is still there, so if he starts playing again he will lose golf balls. Maybe a condition for him to start playing again is to get some lessons.

At some point we have to get back to work. We have learned a few things over the past two
months about the virus and how to live with it. The folks in charge at all levels should focus on what procedures, what conditions must be met by a business (and their customers) to open for regular business. Some are obvious and should not have to be stated. If you’re sick stay home, do not go to work, do not go to restaurants. We already get the third degree, all but stripped searched when you go on planes. What’s one more test to see if you sick.


And these stay at home orders are giving the scientist that needed time to work on a vaccine. I myself would rather be safe than sorry. Others don't think that way...they think haphazardly, putting MILLIONS of people at risk. Of course, that's just my opinion.


Really think it is reasonable to keep the country shut down until there is a vaccine? After all it is over a year away. The country will not survive that long with out people going back to work.


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No Vaccine is going to be on the market for 12 to 18 months, that would be January 2021 to July 2021. Do you expect the country to stay locked up for that long? And keeping people in lockdown makes no difference to the people working to develop a vaccine, why would it?

Any drug or biological has to go thru a three step procedure First it is tested on a small group to see if it safe to use. That takes months. Then a second larger group is used to determine the correct dosage and to further look for side effects. More months go by. Lastly a much larger group is used to further check for safety and whether the stuff does what it is supposed to do, delivery immunity in this case. Many more months for this stage. This normally takes years to do and costs hundreds of millions of dollars. All of this happens after extensive animal testing.

It can be compressed to the mentioned 12-18 months in an emergency. If you think this is overkill the French did a trial not to long ago that killed many of the participants right then and there, before they could get the needle out of their vein, and permanently injured many of the others. Mice are not people and because something may seem to work in a rodent does not mean it will in people.


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We all look at the numbers, and they are scary. Which is what they are designed to be. We are only now seeing them admit that the numbers are skewed to scare you. Every one that dies is being listed as dying from the the virus if they did or not. Notice heart attack deaths have disappeared, as have victims of strokes.

Now as of last report. The Gov is actually doing a study to determine how many have in reality died from the virus, and how many have died form natural causes. once the study is finished. There will be a drastic reduction in the real death rate of the virus. and the 98% survival rate will rise to a much higher survival rate.

Take that for what you want. But just realize you are being fed fake numbers to scare you.

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Let me point out that this so called model they are using is based on what is happening in NYC not on what is happening in 95% of the country and they have been dropping the numbers of predicted deaths repeatedly during the last week. Cut from almost 100,000 to 60,000 and I expect it will drop more.

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