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Chevy offers a heavy duty front axle. That's about it. All other options are mostly creature comforts.
I buy brand new trucks with rubber floors and vinyl seats because I use them for work and recreation. The recreation usually also involves wet clothes (from boating) along with dirt and mud. I'd love to be able to find used ones built like that but they don't really exist. I can usually buy a new truck built the way I want for less money than several year old trucks with the higher levels of trim.
Have you looked at the Chevy work truck trim level? It is a lot less expensive and can still be optioned with power windows, locks, cruise, etc. for not that much more money.

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Power window are 30 lbs per window. Carpet probably 10-20 lbs. Cruise all of 1-2 lbs. A full on leather pkg can add upwards of 1000 lbs to a crew cab! Diesel 800-1200 lbs over a gas rig. Auto 50-100 lbs over manual trans.....

I would not say add ons do not change payload much. My current reg cab C2500 has all of 300 lbs less payload per the door sticker than my 05 CC dually dmax. I know of another person that had a full leather pkg, he has/had less payload than my C2500. This is per the door sticker amount! Not talking FBL amount! Then there is a 12K gvw difference between the C2500 and the DW rigs!

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BenK wrote:

You did say "...should I order to maximize payload..."

Then order ZERO bling options

Just a manual (if not available, then an automatic), AC, Tow package, plain Jane interior.

Maybe a radio. No power door locks, no power windows, etc


First line, yes.
Next 3 lines....roflmao! Check your calendar, it's 2020, not 2002 or 1992.


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Marty and Ben, you've lost your marbles.
4500 for a little camper that could go on a 3-4 ton?

OP, stop reading too much on weightcop.net (rvnet). Get the truck you want and don't be a narcissit about weight. Seriously.

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Grit dog wrote:

Marty and Ben, you've lost your marbles.
4500 for a little camper that could go on a 3-4 ton?

OP, stop reading too much on weightcop.net (rvnet). Get the truck you want and don't be a narcissit about weight. Seriously.


LOL
I'm just pointing out what said options weigh. How they effect what the OP wants to order. As noted, my 3/4 ton has the same approximate door sticker payload as my one ton dually with an almighty dmax in it! both about 2 tons. Of course we can get into the RV.net weight police mode, or the marty do anything up to max FBL weight limit, but get screwed because you can stop doing the field test for braking......

If the OP wants the most payload for a given truck chassis, do not order options! or as few as possible.

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The LT offers dual climate control and bucket front seats (saves a 150lbs because it removes a seating position) and those 2 options are not available on the WT. I did spec out both the LT and WT and there wasn't a significant difference in price. I personally like the appearance of the WT better. The 1T SRW is plenty of truck to meet my needs. It will be a gas super cab LWB.

Air bags and 19.5" tires are in the mix.

* This post was edited 04/13/20 09:24am by cptqueeg *

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blt2ski wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Marty and Ben, you've lost your marbles.
4500 for a little camper that could go on a 3-4 ton?

OP, stop reading too much on weightcop.net (rvnet). Get the truck you want and don't be a narcissit about weight. Seriously.


LOL
I'm just pointing out what said options weigh. How they effect what the OP wants to order. As noted, my 3/4 ton has the same approximate door sticker payload as my one ton dually with an almighty dmax in it! both about 2 tons. Of course we can get into the RV.net weight police mode, or the marty do anything up to max FBL weight limit, but get screwed because you can stop doing the field test for braking......

If the OP wants the most payload for a given truck chassis, do not order options! or as few as possible.

Marty


Haha, sorry man. I know your views on this, but the rvnet bandwagon will have him in a class 4 truck in 2 shakes of a lambs tail all on their own!

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cptqueeg wrote:

The LT offers dual climate control and bucket front seats (saves a 150lbs because it removes a seating position) and those 2 options are not available on the WT. I did spec out both the LT and WT and there wasn't a significant difference in price. I personally like the appearance of the WT better. The 1T SRW is plenty of truck to meet my needs. It will be a gas super cab LWB.

Air bags and 19.5" tires are in the mix.


You're correct, a 1 ton SRW is very appropriate for that camper.
Depending on % of miles with camper on vs running empty, air bags or another suspension mod may be appropriate. In any case, I wouldn't do mods until the camper's on and loaded up. Then decide that. It won't even squat a lot hauling the camper home.
Same with 19.5s. Personally I wouldn't even consider them in your scenario, at all, ever, but they may be somewhat justifiable if essentially a full time camper hauler....just a little bit.

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Get a dually and don't worry about payload!



Totally agree. don't reinvent the wheel.

Dually chassis cab with aluminum bed.


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How to order a 3500 to maximize payload?

Use the ordering guide from GM. clicky link

GM has a weights calculator that gives weights for std packages and any added options.
Play around with it and see how easy it is to configure the truck you want and see how much load each axle carries. That way you can use the GVWR based payload method or the RAWR based payload method.

Keep in mind some std equipment packages varies with a WT or LT of LTZ or high country in the same 3500 cab/drive train selections.

Like I said spend some time with. For some reason the weights calculator is usually one year behind current year models so you will have to use it for 2020 models.


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