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fj12ryder wrote:

Ah, so you pulled the bearing apart before you ever traveled and found that the inner race was bad. That would be the only way you could determine that the race was bad from the factory. Yes, it could have been caused by what you described, or it could have been caused by something else. Unless you saw it new and unused, it's just speculation.


I agree , and always blaming it on quality is getting a bit redundant IMO, it’s like always blaming the tire blowout on quality , I’ve seen how people take care of them

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Lynnmor wrote:

The remaining ridge is still quite visible and I am showing the remaining height. I have been in the tool & die business for more than half a century and understand how things are made. If you cannot or will not accept what I have presented, fine. I still have a customer that his entire business is bearing failure, preventive maintenance and lubrication analysis, he is in total agreement with my conclusion. Perhaps you have more expertise than the both of us.
As I said, you could be correct, based on the available evidence. But I've worked around bearings and machined surfaces also for 40 years, and I've seen bearings fail and look just like that. Since I had put the bearings together, I knew they were good from the box. I don't know that I have more expertise, but I know that after the fact analysis doesn't always result in the correct answer. Just the way things go.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.


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This bearing is from the same batch with the same small amount of usage:

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Lynnmor wrote:

The remaining ridge is still quite visible and I am showing the remaining height. I have been in the tool & die business for more than half a century and understand how things are made. If you cannot or will not accept what I have presented, fine. I still have a customer that his entire business is bearing failure, preventive maintenance and lubrication analysis, he is in total agreement with my conclusion. Perhaps you have more expertise than the both of us.


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Now boys (and maybe girls), my original post was only to determine if the price quoted for repacking was fair. It doesn't need to devolve into disagreements about the quality of bearings, lack of quality control, or technical expertise, etc.


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Now boys (and maybe girls), my original post was only to determine if the price quoted for repacking was fair. It doesn't need to devolve into disagreements about the quality of bearings, lack of quality control, or technical expertise, etc.


If the mechanic thoroughly cleans and looks for all those things that I presented and does a professional job, the price may be fair. If he works like many on YouTube videos and others that deny that quality may be a problem, then free is too much. Good Luck.

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Already got the FW back after they told me $2,300 to replace all four backing plates, etc.

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"I replaced all bearings with MADE IN USA Timkens, I'm done with bearings from a country with no moral compass."

GOOD Man!!! YES they ARE US Made. Some simply keep trying to justify buying "Com$%^&*T CHINESE" products when US Made are readily available.

Notice I didn't completely spell out THAT "OFFENSIVE" to some word! I didn't want my post deleted!!!


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phillyg wrote:

Already got the FW back after they told me $2,300 to replace all four backing plates, etc.


That price could have bought you a Disk conversion kit.

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