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Gjac

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Posted: 06/16/20 12:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cobra21 wrote:

We have a 21 C. This works great for almost everything. Small enough to use for grocery getting and general running around. I think if I felt the need to tow a car, I would just get a travel trailer and a truck as I had before.
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. Nice. I haven’t seen any new ones that small, do they still make them smaller than 24 ft?

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We have a 24’ Winnebago and tow a Jeep Wrangler, the Jeep gets almost as bad mileage as the rv, but gets in places the rv never would, we’ve drug it all over the western states, we make a few trips without towing but not many


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Hi,

I've used a 26' and 28'5" class c without a toad. On 2 occasions I rented a car, since 2000.


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My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp hours of AGM in two battery banks 12 volt batteries, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

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Gjac wrote:

Cobra21 wrote:

We have a 21 C. This works great for almost everything. Small enough to use for grocery getting and general running around. I think if I felt the need to tow a car, I would just get a travel trailer and a truck as I had before.
Brian
. Nice. I haven’t seen any new ones that small, do they still make them smaller than 24 ft?


I think 24 may be about the shortest now in a Class C. My sister in-law has a Class B, I don't think I would be too happy in that.
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24' Class C here, and no toad. When we do bring local transportation with us, it's a 50cc scooter that gets carried on a hitch rack.


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Our B+ SEEN HERE measures 23'-8" over-all, small by class C standards. We went on one big long trip out west without our tow vehicle. Our mobility was fine for general transit, shopping, restaurants, etc, but there were times we missed having our Jeep Liberty for exploring and increased mobility in national parks. We also missed the convenience of leaving the RV at the camp site to avoid prepping it every morning to drive off.

We are not the kind of people who hang out at the camp site.

* This post was edited 06/21/20 08:35am by ron.dittmer *


2007 Phoenix Cruiser model 2350, with 2006 Jeep Liberty in-tow


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ron.dittmer wrote:

Our B+ SEEN HERE measures 23'-8" over-all, small by class C standards. We went on one big long trip out west without our tow vehicle. Our mobility was fine for general transit, shopping, restaurants, etc, but there were times we missed having our Jeep Liberty for exploring and increased mobility in national parks. We also missed the convenience of leaving the RV at the camp site to avoid prepping it every morning to drive off.

We are not the kind of people who hang out at the camp site.
I don't hang around the camp site either that is why I asked the question. I have an A now and would not be without a tow car. Noticed most B campers don't tow but many small C campers do, did not know whether the added width made a difference or not because most of the B's are about the same length as yours which is very nice. I looked at the new 2350 models and they only come with a slide and less FW than yours.

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Gjac wrote:

ron.dittmer wrote:

Our B+ SEEN HERE measures 23'-8" over-all, small by class C standards. We went on one big long trip out west without our tow vehicle. Our mobility was fine for general transit, shopping, restaurants, etc, but there were times we missed having our Jeep Liberty for exploring and increased mobility in national parks. We also missed the convenience of leaving the RV at the camp site to avoid prepping it every morning to drive off.

We are not the kind of people who hang out at the camp site.
I don't hang around the camp site either that is why I asked the question. I have an A now and would not be without a tow car. Noticed most B campers don't tow but many small C campers do, did not know whether the added width made a difference or not because most of the B's are about the same length as yours which is very nice. I looked at the new 2350 models and they only come with a slide and less FW than yours.
It might be the way Phoenix spec'd the fresh water capacity at the time. I think in 2007, Phoenix included the 6 gallons of water in the hot water tank. I later added a 1 gallon water accumulator tank, so my capacity is a tad more than when the rig was new.

You can "special order" any Phoenix Cruiser without one or all slide outs as long as the floor plan can accommodate the deviation. That is how we got our model 2350 without a slide out. We instead invested in the full body paint job. There is a long list of reasons why we intentionally avoided a slide out.

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I don't tow a car, but for our style of travel I just have not had the need. We're more travelers than campers, so the RV is with us anyway. I do have bicycles for getting around locally, that works well for me when staying a few days.

But what I would add here is to say that if you needed a car in your class A, you will probably need a car in a 24' class C. Once you are over 19-20 feet, your parking is greatly diminished in touristy area's. Expect to park far and walk long.


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Also, flexibility to travel in a Class C without towing depends upon the WIDTH of it ... in addition to it's length.

We don't tow with our 24 foot Class C ... but it's "widebody" coach style (~101 inches wide) can sometimes make for white knuckle driving and parking.

However we are turtle-type RV travelers in that we like our home with us at all times, so we do take it along with us off-highway out in the boondocks on rough roads where some folks might want to use only a vehicle that they tow along. [emoticon]


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