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In October of 2014, a truck dropped two 5 gallon buckets of a liquid off in front of us. They were next lane over but one bozo dodging them clipped one and it rolled in front of our truck and trailer. I could not avoid it and was running 60 mph. It went under the truck and managed to take out the oil filter, lost oil pressure and blew hot oil all over the engine. We could not shut down in the middle of the interstate and had to get over 3 lanes to the shoulder.

Buy the time we got over, the engine was history. The truck pulled over right in front of us and we called the police. He got a ticket for failing to properly secure his load and his insurance got to put a new crate motor in the 2 year old truck. We were off the road 3 weeks total and they paid for a rental car, our campsite and the repair. The engine repair bill from Ford was $23,800.

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A1ARealtorRick wrote:

So, what is seemingly being said is that the new truck tires are just as bad as the retreads......and if they disintegrate and leave pieces all over the road, those pieces are just as dangerous as retread gators, right? My conclusion, based on what I'm reading in this post, is that the DOT standards (for both new and retread truck tires) are apparently garbage.


Vast majority of the time, it can be traced to maintenance. Under inflated tires tend to fail even if they are new and high quality.


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TXiceman wrote:

In October of 2014, a truck dropped two 5 gallon buckets of a liquid off in front of us.

I am sorry that happened to you.

If you watch Youtube videos of events as you describe, they often seem to happen in just a few seconds with almost no time to react.


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valhalla360 wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

So, what is seemingly being said is that the new truck tires are just as bad as the retreads......and if they disintegrate and leave pieces all over the road, those pieces are just as dangerous as retread gators, right? My conclusion, based on what I'm reading in this post, is that the DOT standards (for both new and retread truck tires) are apparently garbage.


Vast majority of the time, it can be traced to maintenance. Under inflated tires tend to fail even if they are new and high quality.


This is true. But it is the driver that must keep the tires aired up. I did not enjoy the time with gauge and hose, but if a tire failed the cost of tire, damage, and downtime came out of my pocket. Most drivers are only paid for the miles they drive. Time/effort taking care of the rig is unpaid labor.
And I don't know how to prove it, but if you compared total miles truck/RV and total blowouts truck/RV, you likely would not be so tough on the truckers

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JRscooby wrote:

you likely would not be so tough on the truckers


I realize I am taking your quote a bit out of context, but it is something I have really come to appreciate the more miles I log driving my coach. A day's driving when dealing with all of the people who think the gap between me and the vehicle ahead of me is for them to cross three lanes with (and not for safely slowling 50k pounds down), or all of the folks who pass me because I MUST be going slow (then make me come off my cruise when they slow back down), etc., etc.; I am amazed how full time truck drivers keep their cool. I guess that is why they're professionals.

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I've seen the results of three deadly encounter with gators . A big Cruiser Harley hit one that exploded a bit in front of him. Tow cars hit on and in the center wall killing everyone in one car and some others.
Tore the radiator and exhaust out from under my Sons Plymouth in 2004. Tore some of the undersides from my 86 Mustang from a piece hit by another semi and slung right in front of me. Hit apiece form a tire exploding just hundreds of feet.
I have paid either five or six deductibles to get our vehicles repaired from gators.
Ran over two or three in the Motorhome with some noise but no damage to it or towed so far.
Lot of people killed each year and millions in damages to other vehicles.
American Trucking Association is powerful and has stopped all efforts, dead in their tracks for safer tire standards. usually rethreads but not always and it against the law to put rethreads on semi steer axle.
But those of trailer the most common to blow may be Mh takeoffs over five years old, but they aren't supposed to, or the rethreads with casings years old with patched holes through the metal cords in the casings and new rubber threads.
Tires cost a lot and one Company Owner a client said he spend more on tires fro the tractors than on fuel. The Trailer Owners put the cheapest rethreads they can get most often. I understand profits but Cost cutting shouldn't include others lives lost and millions in vehicles damaged as as part of the equation.

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Posted: 06/25/20 01:47pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JRscooby wrote:


This is true. But it is the driver that must keep the tires aired up. I did not enjoy the time with gauge and hose, but if a tire failed the cost of tire, damage, and downtime came out of my pocket. Most drivers are only paid for the miles they drive. Time/effort taking care of the rig is unpaid labor.
And I don't know how to prove it, but if you compared total miles truck/RV and total blowouts truck/RV, you likely would not be so tough on the truckers


I didn't think I was being that tough on truckers. I was pointing out that it's not new vs retread but maintenance that can typically be pointed to when there is a tire failure.

Of course, truckers as "professionals" should be held to a higher standard. They drive bigger and heavier vehicles that can do more damage. A gator coming off a super single will do a lot more damage than one coming off your average RV tire (not that anyone should be careless with maintenance).

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Rough On Truckers? Unless Independents they belong to Companies who are multi billion dollar firms and some smaller companies.
No body is being rough on anybody. If the truth lands on whoever well it is their fault. Trailer Owners are mostly responsible.
Truckers are supposed to inspect the ties and before pulling out no matter whose though.

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Tires have been flying to pieces since way waaay back.

Truck cruising speeds are higher due to everything having to happen in a Big Hurry,

Roads are clogged with vehicles so when the tread (aka "thread" on rv.net) flies off due to heat failure, no place for the following traffic to swerve and avoid even if nose is not in phone screen...

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