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Posted: 06/26/20 07:36am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have no wires going to the throttle body so I would say that this is for a newer model year than ours which is a 99. The cleaning of both keep them clean but did not stop the issue. Just a good warm up and it was fine.

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theoldwizard1 wrote:

crawford wrote:

why not go to any parts houses most do free scans see what it says no guessing

Pre OBD-II


OBD-II has been standard on the E450 since '97.


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ocean bound wrote:

I have a 2006 Georgetown Ford V 10 Lately when I start it Then head out It will stall in the first five or 10 minutes when I come to a stop sign Or light And restarts with no problem and does not do it after that Any idea what it could be And it runs perfect after that


Check for "Pending Codes". The fault causing this might not be severe enough to trigger the SES light.

Two items that I would suspect, based on timing.

1) Evap purge valve might be sticking open, pulling too much vacuum on the fuel system. This may cause an intermittent P0452 code, but it only seems to trigger that code occasionally, even when the problem is continuous.

2) Heater on the forward O2 sensors might not be heating up anymore, so it's still over-fueling as it warms up. I've had this issue a couple of time. They only seem to last about 125,000 miles. Eventually it will cause a heater-open-circuit code but it has to get really bad before that happens. Earlier symptoms are what you describe, and may be accompanied by a pending P0133 or P0134 code (O2 sensor slow response).

Sometimes it's easier to diagnose by letting it get worse, although it's never a bad practice to make sure all your scheduled maintenance is up to date.

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wanderingaimlessly wrote:

theoldwizard1 wrote:

crawford wrote:

why not go to any parts houses most do free scans see what it says no guessing

Pre OBD-II

I thought OBD was mandatory since the mid to late 90's. I know I have used mine on Auto's and light trucks back to that era.

Correct ! I mis-read 2006 as 1996 ! Time for new glasses.

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Some of this depends on if this is the older mechanical throttle body with a separate Idle Air Control (IAC) valve or the newer electronic throttle body ("throttle by wire")

Cleaning a throttle body is a waste of time. The software is designed to handle "sludged" throttle bodies as long as the plate still moves. (I wrote some of that.)

IAC issues usually results in crank-no start (flooded).

Cleaning the MAF can't hurt.

My gut says it is a fuel pressure issue, but the only way to know for sure is to connect a fuel pressure gauge and drive it while watching the pressure.

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2006 will be throttle-by-wire. The throttle body in them occasionally gets gummed up from PVC vapors, and can cause some stiction. But usually the first symptom of this is throttle lag at low throttle positions. The throttle-by-wire V10s do not have an IAC. Cleaning the MAF regularly is always a good idea.

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Thanks for all the help and ideas I will start with the MAF Cleaning and go from there


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Plugged fuel intake at the gas tank

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