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Ouch, not even 350KM on the odo and first time using 4LO...

Broken front axle at CV joint




Cool story bro... Don't get too swole over this little incident....I had a brand new 2001 Dodge Ram that seized up 2 new 3rd members at about 250 and 750 miles on the ODO meter. First time, it went away on a flat bed wrecker, leaving me with a trailer sitting on the side of a highway 100 miles form home.
Couple weeks later, fresh outta the shop with a whole shiny new rear axle it did the same thing about 400 mi from home and ended up with another shiny new rear axle....


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Grit dog wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Ouch, not even 350KM on the odo and first time using 4LO...

Broken front axle at CV joint




Cool story bro... Don't get too swole over this little incident....I had a brand new 2001 Dodge Ram that seized up 2 new 3rd members at about 250 and 750 miles on the ODO meter. First time, it went away on a flat bed wrecker, leaving me with a trailer sitting on the side of a highway 100 miles form home.
Couple weeks later, fresh outta the shop with a whole shiny new rear axle it did the same thing about 400 mi from home and ended up with another shiny new rear axle....


Yes, it is a cool story bro. Especially reading into the thread on how long it took to get fixed. There we also a few others with the same issue. I have even snapped a few CV joints on my go fast off roaders with IFS(RZR's and quads) when trying to do the same type of rock crawling that can easily be done with a solid axle without anything breaking. They are great when going fast off road, but I have seen plenty of them break on other people's vehicles (and my own) when trying to do technical rock crawling.

That being said, IFS is fine for most people who will never take it that far which most don't on a new $40k vehicles. It is generally the second or third owners who try to take them on technical obstacles years later and you will really see the carnage then. There is nothing worse than having to cancel your weekend overland trip because someone has a breakdown on the first obstacle. That is why we don't invite the IFS guys because the chances are high that it will happen. Had to do this in Moab and we spent more time trying to fix a friend's rig than actual wheeling.

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ShinerBock wrote:

Ouch, not even 350KM on the odo and first time using 4LO...

Broken front axle at CV joint


Now this is cool. A lot more articulation in comparison to the stock IFS they replaced.

Someone’s Already Given the New Ford Bronco a Solid Front Axle


Sucks that happened but then that's why there's a warranty.


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Grit dog wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Ouch, not even 350KM on the odo and first time using 4LO...

Broken front axle at CV joint




Cool story bro... Don't get too swole over this little incident....I had a brand new 2001 Dodge Ram that seized up 2 new 3rd members at about 250 and 750 miles on the ODO meter. First time, it went away on a flat bed wrecker, leaving me with a trailer sitting on the side of a highway 100 miles form home.
Couple weeks later, fresh outta the shop with a whole shiny new rear axle it did the same thing about 400 mi from home and ended up with another shiny new rear axle....


Yes, it is a cool story bro. Especially reading into the thread on how long it took to get fixed. There we also a few others with the same issue. I have even snapped a few CV joints on my go fast off roaders with IFS(RZR's and quads) when trying to do the same type of rock crawling that can easily be done with a solid axle without anything breaking. They are great when going fast off road, but I have seen plenty of them break on other people's vehicles (and my own) when trying to do technical rock crawling.

That being said, IFS is fine for most people who will never take it that far which most don't on a new $40k vehicles. It is generally the second or third owners who try to take them on technical obstacles years later and you will really see the carnage then. There is nothing worse than having to cancel your weekend overland trip because someone has a breakdown on the first obstacle. That is why we don't invite the IFS guys because the chances are high that it will happen. Had to do this in Moab and we spent more time trying to fix a friend's rig than actual wheeling.


So the subject of the new Bronco broken CV joint was doing hard core rock crawling in that dirt lot? Thus it wasn't designed for that?
You're starting to lose me here. I don't think anyone (with a brain) disagrees that solid drive axles are better for high angle off roading. (rock crawling) Not just durability but traction (keeping wheels on the ground).

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So the subject of the new Bronco broken CV joint was doing hard core rock crawling in that dirt lot? Thus it wasn't designed for that?
You're starting to lose me here.


A few of the others in that thread/forum that stated they broke theirs were not on a dirt lots nd were actually rock crawling.

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I don't think anyone (with a brain) disagrees that solid drive axles are better for high angle off roading. (rock crawling) Not just durability but traction (keeping wheels on the ground).


And yet multiple people here have done that if you read my past posts in this thread. I have said multiple times that IFS is better for high speed off roading and daily drivers, but the solid axle is better and more reliable for slow off road rock crawling yet people keep replying to my statements disagreeing with me.

Not saying the Bronco is bad. I would definitely buy one for the wife if she wanted one. In fact, I am trying to push her in that direction. I would just never take it to the more hardcore places I would take my Rubicon due to fears of the IFS breaking.

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Anyone who buys a new vehicle for in excess of $50K, then proceeds to go rock crawling with it or beating it off trees in the woods somewhere has more rocks in their head than what they are craving over IMO lol. But it's your money.


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Anyone who buys a new vehicle for in excess of $50K, then proceeds to go rock crawling with it or beating it off trees in the woods somewhere has more rocks in their head than what they are craving over IMO lol. But it's your money.



I don't think my wife will treat a new Bronco like that ,she seems to want that new Bronco .

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Anyone who buys a new vehicle for in excess of $50K, then proceeds to go rock crawling with it or beating it off trees in the woods somewhere has more rocks in their head than what they are craving over IMO lol. But it's your money.

Considering there are folks who are paying full sticker or more and then immediately flipping them for a healthy profit, the mere thought that a few would go out and boonie bash theirs is certainly not out of the question, even though I and most people I’d assume don’t wheel rigs with nice paint, much less brand new.

The bigger issue is the back story about the demand (not just Broncos). I fear this inflation has not maxxed out yet.

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Brandon the Traveler wrote:

Anyone who buys a new vehicle for in excess of $50K, then proceeds to go rock crawling with it or beating it off trees in the woods somewhere has more rocks in their head than what they are craving over IMO lol. But it's your money.



Eh, and some would say spending that much, then using it for Starbucks runs and never exploring its capabilities is folly.

Ford markets it as off-road capable. It's the new, cooler Toyota FJ.

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propchef wrote:

Brandon the Traveler wrote:

Anyone who buys a new vehicle for in excess of $50K, then proceeds to go rock crawling with it or beating it off trees in the woods somewhere has more rocks in their head than what they are craving over IMO lol. But it's your money.



Eh, and some would say spending that much, then using it for Starbucks runs and never exploring its capabilities is folly.

Ford markets it as off-road capable. It's the new, cooler Toyota FJ.


Some would. Some would also say a fool and his money are soon parted. For 4 wheeling here in the Northeast such as NY/PA, I would recommend buying one in black, then drive some wooded overgrown logging tracks.

They're a nice vehicle but when I see one it does not make me think of how cool the owner is. I suspect as more come to be seen on the highways you'll get a new category of inconsiderate tailgating sphincters such as you have with Jeep Grand Cherokee owners.

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