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Wow, talk about it is all about me attitude.
First of all if you are in the right lane, you need to yield to a vehicle passing you in the left lane, you just can't bull your way into the lane, same on returning to the right lane.

Well if you are driving defensively you are looking down the road and not beyond your ability to slow or stop for traffic issues.

Lastly if you pull from the right lane into the left lane and strike a vehicle already there, you are at fault, not the vehicle already in that lane.



Wrong.

1). A vehicle passing at a 7-mph variance will, with some minor slowing on the part of the travel lane vehicle, get around the right lane vehicle quickly.

2). But those on his tail have ZERO right-of-way. It’s illegal to block the left lane. No exceptions. Tail-gating and lane-blocking aren’t a defense to being knocked off the road. Illegal passing, by definition.

The road design IS the rule.

Faster traffic NEVER has ROW except in the confines of a legal pass.

I’ve had several hit me this year as I LEGALLY moved left. Thought they could speed up to block me: (1) They were illegally in the lane to begin with; (2) “Blocking” can be a go-to-jail offense.

Wake up.

I spend my days maintaining the MAXIMUM distance I can (traffic volume); slowing from a cruise speed by 10-mph TO GET OTHERS AROUND ME FASTEST.

When the idiots jam up ahead of me to pass a slow mover, I back off and wait. Only them do I pass. Alone.

Had an extremely slow big truck get onto the Interstate yesterday at a distance that only emergency braking could solve. I signaled and moved left. LEGALLY, as vehicles illegally tailgating DONT EXIST.

You NEED TO EXPECT THAT (what your father SHOULD have taught you).

Had someone hit your car, but you had no insurance? Same principle, YOU shouldn’t have been on the road. The other guy could be drunk and ran a light. Your fault.

Anyone thinks a big truck driver should roll his vehicle (as that will happen) versus move into the left lane is a fool.

Left lane confers ZERO right-of-way. All risk assumed except within the confines of a legally-executed pass. YOU CANNOT OTHERWISE BE IN THE LEFT LANE.

Your commuter miles = ZERO highway experience.

A guy running the legal minimum of 45-mph MAY decide to move left. You’re running 77-mph AND ARE OUTSIDE THE PASS ZONE you’re screwed.

What speed you “want” to run has ZERO to do with responsible driving. High traffic volume means you don’t get to run the upper limit.

“Overtaking” isn’t passing. Has no defense. IS a traffic offense.

A big truck needs more than 350’ clearance between him and anyone else. It’s when he needs to move to the left lane. And does. Do you believe it smart, safe, prudent or legal to cut between him and the vehicle he’s passing (from the right lane)?

Did you enter a rural Interstate and fail to have BOTH a 5-7/mph leeway PLUS 350’ ahead of a big truck? Otherwise, it’s an illegal maneuver you’ve made. You CANNOT force the travel lane occupant to have to brake or steer to avoid. Period.

Passed a big truck and re-entered the right lane ahead of him without a football-field length difference? (Same thing).

None of what I’ve written was any mystery 50-years ago, even 40.

ROW is everything. And it’s defined.

Your “presence” where you aren’t supposed to be, can — and will — get you killed.

Know the rules. A turn signal is A SIGN (which you must observe) where ROW has defined who may do what (when).

I’m not required to sacrifice my life for yours. And I won’t. Same as you.

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The GOOD NEWS...you are in the Fort Worth area!

Jerry





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The GOOD NEWS...you are in the Fort Worth area!

Jerry


Nope. I’m all over the US. With experience you can’t hope to match for vehicle type, weather, roads and loads. And it looks (again) with understanding of the rules you ignore when convenient.

You one of them runs at too high a speed into a construction zone to “get ahead” of the big truck. Jam yourself in front of him as he tries to keep a reasonable distance? And you’ve attached your nose to the hindquarters of the car ahead of you. Who has done the same again, and again, seven cars ahead? No braking distance at all?

The Midwest beats the South any day for intelligent drivers. As a class, they’ve all but disappeared (farmers & ranchers used to be among them; not any more). Connecticut is — generally — the state where skill & vehicle & ROW best come together.

Indiana doesn’t have the worst drivers. But they’ll take advantage of the lower truck speed limit to cut over too late, brake, and exit the highway. Enter a single lane. Even accelerate to do it.

If that truck driver had to brake to avoid hitting you the “accident” won’t be his fault.

If it’s me, I know how to keep my truck upright and lane-centtered to come to a controlled-stop. It WON’T be with you jammed under my right Steer tire. You’ll be somewhere other than on the road is my guess of how it’ll go.

Unlike you I have a family who expects me to come home. Also unlike you I have devices recording all that I do. A medical card. HOS regulations. I must daily certify the vehicle is safe to operate. Etc.

And I’ve gamed out how to control a situation with the least damage.

Whether or not you go home is up to you.

Know the rules. Stay inside them.

For an RV’er, ones at the helm of the LEAST capable vehicle out there.

With the least capable driver (he’s always the new guy). On a two week vacation you MIGHT have worked out the rhythms by the time you get home.

Every one believes that they are good drivers.
The differences between best and worst are tiny.
At speed, it’s all about vehicle separation.

Use ROW — and separation — then the habits become natural.

Having a trailer behind you shouldn’t occasion ANY CHANGES WHATSOEVER.

But RVers are bad drivers. How do I know? Just read here about “engine power”. And NOTHING about steering control or antilock trailer disc brakes. “Payload” and “Tongue Weight” and “Tow Capacity” and other non-existent (imaginary) “concerns”.

What’s the RVer answer to what they think is a bad TV? Get a worse one.

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I get the one car one semi crash, cars fault, but how come there's often multiple trucks involved? Must be all those good semi drivers taking their ROW.


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Mike134 wrote:

I get the one car one semi crash, cars fault, but how come there's often multiple trucks involved? Must be all those good semi drivers taking their ROW.


Did you hear me say truckers are all of them better? Same problem with cars: incompetents who shouldn’t be allowed over 40-mph. But that’d be both racist and sexist to enact. “Safety” isn’t safety when it conflicts with other agendas.

I recently wrote a long post or two about CB (before my phone crashed). It’s worth the time and effort to have a GOOD installation.

It’s mucho fun to call out bad truck drivers as another truck driver. Bad habit’s by many. The word constructions depend on how the job is performed (may be unfamiliar), but the intent is the same. As the consequences are worse (call his company or the state), it’s a familiar story. Daily.

That gets things going on air. Legalities.
Ask, “how to”, and it gets real interesting real quick.

Take your job. Make it into one with the highest fatality rate with use of wrong procedure. (Seriously). There are many good students among the mass of fools.

Believe me that we’ve saved your bacon more than once.
And you never noticed.

But the numbers of bad & worse truck drivers only increases.

I’ve had them try to play chicken with my rig.
On the radio I let them know it’ll be otherwise.
This is America.
They can go back where they came from.
Or to hell.

It’s up to them.

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Lol...welcome to the forum! Yes, all kinds of people make up these forums. You will be an interesting member! A tip...shorten your posts! Oh, now tell us you are also a hiway safety engineer, when you aren't trucking/typing![emoticon]

Jerry

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Another tip.
Stop the preaching and the bragging. That will keep the flamers away and reduce my work load! [emoticon] Some really good advice buried in amongst other stuff in your posts above.
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MFL wrote:

The GOOD NEWS...you are in the Fort Worth area!

Jerry


Good point, I don’t need to deal with him either!


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BarneyS wrote:

Another tip.
Stop the preaching and the bragging. That will keep the flamers away and reduce my work load! [emoticon] Some really good advice buried in amongst other stuff in your posts above.
Barney


Hey Barney, didn't mean to flame, but guilty of teasing a little. I think we may have inherited from a forum that banned? It is easy to understand the heightened road rage on the roadways today, with attitudes doing the driving, and the ROW can mean DEAD right.

Appreciate your hard work! I'm sure you are well paid! [emoticon]

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Hey, all I want is to see the statutes this guy seems to think exist with all the ROW nonsense. In all my many years, I've never heard most of the stuff this guy is passing off as legal and not legal. You pull left directly in front of that trooper who is directly behind someone passing a vehicle, and I guarantee that you will not escape that encounter unscathed. Telling him he has no right to be where he was probably won't cut much ice. [emoticon]


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