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HadEnough

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Posted: 09/01/20 11:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I’m kind of bummed out and bewildered that no one else has this problem.

I would have thought it was sort of common since it keeps happening to me.

Was hoping to find a work around or an improvement to fix the issue once and for all.

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Posted: 09/01/20 11:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You say they fail “ at the top of the triangle”.....do you mean the hole with a slot cut into it on the end of the ear?...I swapped sides with my front ears so I can use solid hole right over the bar instead of putting too much twisting torque on bar if using slotted hole on end of ear..... 4 years with my TL tie-downs and they are still like new.


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HadEnough wrote:

I’m kind of bummed out and bewildered that no one else has this problem.

I would have thought it was sort of common since it keeps happening to me.

Was hoping to find a work around or an improvement to fix the issue once and for all.

Once again, what Torklift guy say about it?
We do have their representative posting on the forum, so I wonder where he is now?
BTW have not seen rain in Las Vegas for at least 6 months, so send some over.
At least it finally cooled down to 90F





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Posted: 09/01/20 01:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have torqlift tiedowns and in fact I installed them myself. They are extremely strong. Before the tiedowns would break or bend the brackets would pull out of the camper.

Neither should happen ever. I suspect you have at least a couple of problems. First the camper should not be moving. You need a thick "horse mat" or other base for the camper to sit on. Next take a look at the bottom of the camper. There should be a rough surface. If not you can add something like stair tread anti-slip tape. Finally even if there is some slipping, the fastguns should provide a firm pull with plenty of give so nothing can break or bend. Are you using a horse mat? Are you using fastguns with properly set tension?

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Something is unique with your setup ...

We have no issue with TL mounts, Fast Guns, rubber mat ... the roads we have to travel departing the NE through NY and PA beat the living **** out of us, but no issues with tie downs to this point.

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From given description so far, I conclude that OP ties are mounted pretty vertical and that is not good.
I've seen setups like that and beside tie-downs the owners had nylon belt holding the camper on the bed.
Again, without picture we can crystal ball the issue forever.

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Kayteg1 wrote:

From given description so far, I conclude that OP ties are mounted pretty vertical and that is not good.
I've seen setups like that and beside tie-downs the owners had nylon belt holding the camper on the bed.
Again, without picture we can crystal ball the issue forever.


That’s quite a conclusion without any pics. And a correct one!!

The fast guns are vertical in a fore and aft sense. They do have a decent angle outward. The mount points on the TC are wider than the mount points on the frame mounts below.

If the ties shouldn’t be vertical, why the heck are these “professional” installers doing that?


I’ll take some pics ASAP.

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Sorry, no problem here. Dodge, Arctic Fox, rubber mat on steel bed, Torklift tiedowns and some chain and turnbuckles.
7 years, 20-30k miles, I drive everything from 80mph across the plains with headwinds to forest roads and stuff that makes the truck feel like it's gonna lift a wheel.

It does seem unusual to me as well.


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I'm not sure you can change the tie down points on the camper as they need to have solid backing and Torklift takes advantage of pre-drilled holes in the trucks forward frame. Most types of fast guns are in a 11:00 to 5:00 position at the back and maybe 2:00 to 7:00 at the front. I'm sure there are many variables but a vertical 12:00 to 6:00 allows the most movement or shifting front to back.


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I'm not sure you can change the tie down points on the camper as they need to have solid backing and Torklift takes advantage of pre-drilled holes in the trucks forward frame. Most types of fast guns are in a 11:00 to 5:00 position at the back and maybe 2:00 to 7:00 at the front. I'm sure there are many variables but a vertical 12:00 to 6:00 allows the most movement or shifting front to back.


On my sisters 2008 Bigfoot Torklift provided a fore/aft rail that bolted to the camper at the original tiedown eyes and moved the rear anchor point rearward so the fastgun would clear the new fender design for 2008.

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The fast guns are vertical in a fore and aft sense. They do have a decent angle outward.


If you change which mount you are using in which position, you can get at least a little angle as changing the mounts will give you about 7" of fore/aft adjustment.

Waiting on pics as that may explain a lot. Please make sure to include pic of the frame mount at both the bed and frame connection points.


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