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8400' elevation, middle of winter = no RV resorts.

Kinda funny actually. I know people around here take their campers up to the "warm" ski areas we have and ski/camp. And there's always a few hippies staying in vans at most any ski hill, but taking your 5ver to Angel Fire in the middle of winter is like lunching yourself in the nuts and expecting it to not hurt.


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I'm still here. Thank you for all the information. I've just been at work so I haven't been able to post as often as I'd like. I'm going to reach out to a couple of you if you don't mind. After reading all the posts we're definitely going to do the trip. We ain't scared! All this information will help immensely. Thank you!!

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No campground is going to have water turned on in those temps. I would suggest bottles of water for drinking and using campground facilities for everything else. I've camped in the teens before, we just didn't use our water system.

You will burn through a lot of propane... a LOT of propane in those temps. I would suggest a good efficient electric heater and heated sheets/blanket for sleeping. It won't be super comfortable, but you should be able to get by for a couple day ski trip.

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spoon059 wrote:

No campground is going to have water turned on in those temps. I would suggest bottles of water for drinking and using campground facilities for everything else. I've camped in the teens before, we just didn't use our water system.

You will burn through a lot of propane... a LOT of propane in those temps. I would suggest a good efficient electric heater and heated sheets/blanket for sleeping. It won't be super comfortable, but you should be able to get by for a couple day ski trip.

Enjoy!


soon059, I guess that depends upon the campground.....I can think of several. They were designed for use in sub-zero temperatures. A couple were built as RV campgrounds, and at least one a mobile home park converted to an RV park! We have many campgrounds in our region, where people live in their RV’s all winter.....some for pleasure and some working construction or in the oil patch! memtb


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Those are pretty demanding temps even for a sticks and bricks house. I am not sure I would risk un-winterizing my plumbing at all if temps would be consistently below 0. Sure you have heated tanks but how much LP? Trying to run your heat in those temps for extended periods of time will burn through a lot of LP. Not sure what FW you have but even with ducted air to the plumbing and tanks, there is still a lot of risk in a length of plumbing or a pump or trap to freeze. If I am staying in below freezing temps, I will winterize, take bottled water and use CG facilities for showers. I wouldn't risk it, but that's me. Most production RV's aren't built to withstand sub zero temps for very long. At or below freezing maybe, but you are talking 20-30 degrees below freezing.

Gosh, I couldn't agree more. I work with a local RV dealer a lot and we trade work war stories. We have a pretty large population of full-timers in the area (mostly down on their luck, not snowbirds) and winters are especially tough on them and their equipment. While we don't get many, if any, subzero temperatures in the winter, our nights can be cold, teens, and our days can stay cold, 20s, and the wear and tear on furnaces and other RV systems in those temperatures is tremendous. They spend their winters thawing out these rigs and retrofitting furnaces that have died, replacing frozen pipes, trying to make systems work. As my buddy says, on a cold night an RV furnace might run all night long with no stop just to try to keep the RV at a livable temperature. No telling if any of that heat is making its way to the tanks or some of the underbelly or basement plumbing. Even if a basement or underbelly is sealed and ducted, is the excess heat coming off the furnace enough to get to all the nooks and crannies and really keep things warm. The more financially fit full-timers in our area are located in established RV parks, rent large propane tanks from a local supplier, and put insulation and skirts underneath their rigs, often at great expense. In our temps this works and few of them have huge issues, but for the less financially stable, this is not realistic. I have this feeling that taking your rig out in subzero weather and trying to run its systems, especially your water and plumbing systems, will not be good for you in the long run.

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Fwiw
Ive been down to minus 20 with no problems,,but then
I have Espar diesel and R10 insulation in all walls and double pane windows.

Still the heater run continously all night on low seting,,surprisingly didnt use much electric either as I only have one AGM deep cycle batt.

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free radical wrote:

Fwiw
Ive been down to minus 20 with no problems,,but then
I have Espar diesel and R10 insulation in all walls and double pane windows.

Still the heater run continously all night on low seting,,surprisingly didnt use much electric either as I only have one AGM deep cycle batt.


This is another testimony, that all campers/rv’s are not created equal. While you will use considerably more propane, especially if the rv is large (ours is a 39 foot 5th wheel), the are several (some of the best are no longer in production) that can handle -20 F quite well. The “nay sayers”, simply have no experience with the few, true 4 season units....therefore, there opinions are biased against cold weather camping! memtb

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clintbrooks1767 wrote:

Can anyone who's been camping in sub freezing temperatures provide me with any advice? I'm trying to avoid common rookie mistakes encountered while camping in very cold weather.

Thank you in advance.
Sounds like you are adding work to a vacation. Been going 20 years you must be familiar with the local hotels. Are they so gross you are considering the new trailer? You might come to like free unlimited hot water and deal with the jizz stained carpet.

We hit hotels all the time and i wont walk barefoot. Shower in flip flops. If you got the cash for a hotel just rock that and spare your new trailer from cold weather abuse.

Im still dealing with 3 leaks my trailer developed when i was out of town during a cold streak. Popped my toilet valve. Popped my shower valve. Popped a 3rd i cant remember. My shower still leaks from it.

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memtb wrote:

free radical wrote:

Fwiw
Ive been down to minus 20 with no problems,..


This is another testimony, that all campers/rv’s are not created equal. While you will use considerably more propane, especially if the rv is large (ours is a 39 foot 5th wheel), the are several (some of the best are no longer in production) that can handle -20 F quite well.

Uh... when a Canadian poster mentions -20, my guess is they would mean -20C, not -20 F. A small but important difference.

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