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Itinerant1 wrote:

Also, I wouldn't stick directly to batteries, if it had to be replaced in the future it might leave a mess behind.


May not be much of an issue... them batteries are projected to have a 10 year lifespan, perhaps more... by that time, I expect to be in something different... and someone else will own them...

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pianotuna wrote:

Michael,

Your link is not working--there is no url.

There are a few truly 4 season RV's out there.

For example, my 1987 Citation Supreme had a full heated basement.

You may wish to look at "Thermo Cubes" which are a temperature controlled switch.

https://www.briskheat.com/thermo-cube-te........ByD-h32AOfNpx7PRn1Fk3iYeoixoC43gQAvD_BwE (scroll down)

Also look at the winter camping thread in the full timers forum.



Thanks, PT... cubes an interesting idea...

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obiwancanoli wrote:

Itinerant1 wrote:

Also, I wouldn't stick directly to batteries, if it had to be replaced in the future it might leave a mess behind.


May not be much of an issue... them batteries are projected to have a 10 year lifespan, perhaps more... by that time, I expect to be in something different... and someone else will own them...


I was thinking of the heat pad going bad.


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obiwancanoli wrote:

pianotuna wrote:

Michael,

Your link is not working--there is no url.

There are a few truly 4 season RV's out there.

For example, my 1987 Citation Supreme had a full heated basement.

You may wish to look at "Thermo Cubes" which are a temperature controlled switch.

https://www.briskheat.com/thermo-cube-te........ByD-h32AOfNpx7PRn1Fk3iYeoixoC43gQAvD_BwE (scroll down)

Also look at the winter camping thread in the full timers forum.



Thanks, PT... cubes an interesting idea...

Cube won't help you for the attached heat pad you have linked it's 12v. Cube is 120v.

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I am using solar power, so I decided to buy Battle Born Batteries. Lead-acid batteries are much cheeper, but over the life of the Battle Born, you will spend more money and time on the cheeper lead-acid. This battery is guaranteed for 10 years. After that date, the capacity will fall off about 10% to 20% and still work great. With lead-acid, you will be buying another one to add to the big pile of dead batteries you have in your back yard.

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Itinerant1 wrote:


Cube won't help you for the attached heat pad you have linked it's 12v. Cube is 120v.


Have you tried a cube with 12 volt?


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My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp hours of AGM in two battery banks 12 volt batteries, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

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Battle born just released a 'White Paper' on using their batteries in the cold:
https://battlebornbatteries.com/lead-is-dead-white-paper-study/

While I don't think this 'study' reflects poorly on LiFePO4 as a chemistry, the absurdity of this study reflects poorly on Battle Born as a company. I certainly have lost respect for them. The pro/cons of the LiFePO4 can stand on their own without such ridiculously biased marketing malarky put forth as 'real world comparison'.

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FWC,

I'm sorry to hear that news. I'll never own LiFePO4 batteries, so I have no skin in the game.

The video appears to be incorrect.

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  • The format of their "paper" violates more than a dozen "white paper" rules
  • Rules that must be obeyed or render the paper worthless
  • It all starts with lack of origin of sample #2
  • It continues with lack of specifications such as weight for all samples
  • It omits voltages
  • It omits the BCI accepted amp hour range starting with the 100-hour rate working down to C5
  • The paper does not adequately caution the reader that attempted recharging has a defined scale:i.e. A recharge rate of constant amperage example 2 amperes would be acceptable a X degrees.



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OPINION

The subject in question has the aroma of one who signs the checks walking into a conference room and announcing "Our sales target for last quarter was off by (twenty) percent. Cold weather operation seems to be our market's biggest objection to purchasing. Absorbed Glass Mat is our biggest opposition.

So frightened engineers retreated and managed to draft up a genuine performance document. They turned it into management,

Management stared at the formula laden paper and eyes bulged.

This is incomprehensensible to me, never mind to our prospective market.

Do Something! Images of pink slips danced above the conference table.

The boys in the fluorescent shirts and paisley ties grabbed the engineering report. "We can save the day and perhaps our jobs"

Tah! Dah!


(Going into this I had to promise myself to not damage my heart or occlude arteries by temperamental explosion. The White Paper was so inept it gave itself away)

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