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Posted: 09/24/20 07:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I likely know the answer here...

Current truck has 350,000kms. Engine is pretty good but it has 200,000kms on the 2nd trans, oil pan leak, small electrical gremlins, rusting etc. Its getting tired. The wife has given me a green light for something newer.

I'm looking at 2012+ GM/Chevy and 2013+ Rams. My budget set but I can't drop $100k CAD on a new rig, so it'll likely be a 2012-2017 range. I'm leaning heavily to diesel on both rigs, my predominant travel is into the Rockies to the West.

My EC850 is kind of portly and weighing in around 4400lbs loaded up with kids supplies, water and gear. A couple trips a year, I tow a ~4000lbs ski boat. The camper is a shortbox model.

So here's my issue. Do I go for a SRW shortbox Ram? Reuse my heavy 19.5" tires? If I go GM, I'll need new 19.5" rim or I'll be just right to the tire max again. I will need winter tires as the truck too, it would be our highway travel vehicle. I do have a beater car for work commuting and errands. Up here, SRW trucks are SOOOO much more prevalent than DRW and a fair bit cheaper.

If I go DRW, I'll have to contend with the 1ft gap between the rear of the cab and front of the camper. I won't need to mess around with tires. I'd still need winter tires but the bonus would also be that I can use the camper with those same winter tires for ski trips.

How is the unladen ride of a DRW with aired down tires vs a SRW with aired down tires. Yes, I get its rough. I've had a 3500 for 10 years. Is the DRW much worse?

Opinions? the right solution is likely DRW. I've had campers for years, so I'm not new to driving with them or hauling heavy. Don't care about GVRW. I realize there is the megacab dually. I could go that way but up here, they command a mega-premium, so much more than a regular dually.


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I’m pretty sure RAM makes shortbed megacab DRWs. If you really want to stay with the current TC, that would be an option.

There are SRWs with 18s. 18s can no go to 4080 which would be an option besides 19.5s. But no fix to a SRW will make it handle a TC like a DRW.

If it was me, I’d consider trading the TC and truck. If it is pretty dedicated to a TC, I don’t think you can go wrong with a DRW.


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For empty ride comfort on my dually I installed Sulastic hangers and they made quite nice change. Truck is still truck, but with hangers I did not have to panic seeing street cover anymore.
I am also big fan on 6.7l Powerstroke and aluminium body, that Ford started in 2017
The truth is that seeking used, you will have to take the best deal what you can find and all 3 brands in that era have good diesels, so get what will be the best deal.
Good luck shopping.





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We are running same camper on SRW LB gasser. If you go gas you can get the payload you need.
If you must go diesel, get a DRW.

Long bed is not an issue-in fact I intentionally put a SB camper on a LB truck.
LB usually gets you greater payload and we love the added storage. I made a wood frame to keep the camper in place.

With the EC 850 on a LB I am able to slide the camper forward more than a SB truck. This puts the COG ~ 2” forward of the axle. On our last SB truck the camper was ~ 2” behind the axle as the camper hits the front of the bed (of course).

Very pleased with our new setup.

BTW; I went from diesel back to gas. The new ten speed trannys are a game changer for gassers. I don’t live in the Rocky’s though...


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billtex wrote:

We are running same camper on SRW LB gasser. If you go gas you can get the payload you need.
If you must go diesel, get a DRW.



But, the real world payload is affected negligibly by the added weight of a diesel engine. Almost mutually exclusive unless you can't sleep at night if you're exceeding the door tag...


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I carried my 4,000 pound TC on a Chevy 3500 SRW while pulling a 4,500 pound boat and trailer. I did this for 2 years. Then, I switched to a Chevy 3500 dually; same camper and boat. The difference was amazing in just a very few miles. There was far less bounce and sway. The whole rig just felt more solid. I knew it would be better but I was surprised how much better and how quickly I could tell a difference.
Get a dually. Then, if you want, upgrade to a long bed camper.

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Likely not a big issue to the OP, but for DRW the GM’s had a max GVWR of 13,025# up until about 2019. Ram has had 14,000# since 2013


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rhagfo wrote:

Likely not a big issue to the OP, but for DRW the GM’s had a max GVWR of 13,025# up until about 2019. Ram has had 14,000# since 2013


Explain to me how those taxable numbers are connected to camper carrying?

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billtex wrote:

We are running same camper on SRW LB gasser. If you go gas you can get the payload you need.
If you must go diesel, get a DRW.

Long bed is not an issue-in fact I intentionally put a SB camper on a LB truck.
LB usually gets you greater payload and we love the added storage. I made a wood frame to keep the camper in place.

With the EC 850 on a LB I am able to slide the camper forward more than a SB truck. This puts the COG ~ 2” forward of the axle. On our last SB truck the camper was ~ 2” behind the axle as the camper hits the front of the bed (of course).

Very pleased with our new setup.

BTW; I went from diesel back to gas. The new ten speed trannys are a game changer for gassers. I don’t live in the Rocky’s though...


What payload does that give you on 2020 CC LB gasser? Is that with 6.2 or 7.3 engine?

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Oregun wrote:

billtex wrote:

We are running same camper on SRW LB gasser. If you go gas you can get the payload you need.
If you must go diesel, get a DRW.

Long bed is not an issue-in fact I intentionally put a SB camper on a LB truck.
LB usually gets you greater payload and we love the added storage. I made a wood frame to keep the camper in place.

With the EC 850 on a LB I am able to slide the camper forward more than a SB truck. This puts the COG ~ 2” forward of the axle. On our last SB truck the camper was ~ 2” behind the axle as the camper hits the front of the bed (of course).

Very pleased with our new setup.

BTW; I went from diesel back to gas. The new ten speed trannys are a game changer for gassers. I don’t live in the Rocky’s though...


What payload does that give you on 2020 CC LB gasser? Is that with 6.2 or 7.3 engine?


I believe 4960# is max for SRW.

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