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monkey44

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Posted: 09/06/21 06:45am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Would be interesting to see 2019 >>> 2020 >>> 2021 ... especially pickup trucks.


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monkey44 wrote:

Would be interesting to see 2019 >>> 2020 >>> 2021 ... especially pickup trucks.


Yep, but I did stumble on this graph by Autopadre.com---

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ktosv wrote:

I have often thought the OEM’s should offer a version of their vehicles that don’t contain all of the advancements and safety features of the last 40 years.

They probably could sell them at a much reduced price for those that don’t like car prices of today. Of course the consumer would need to sign a waiver stating they won’t sue when they are injured or more likely killed when in an accident.

If you park a 35-40 year vehicle next to a new vehicle the differences are astounding.


Yes, but you could work on that 35-40 year old truck with room to spare.
I worked at a Ford dealer in 1978 and that was the first year trucks hit the $10,000 mark.

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I’ve got no intention of ever selling my1986 GMC 4x4 crew cab dually.
I might put a Cummins diesel in it, although it’s actually lots cheaper to put gas in it than to do the diesel swap or buy a new or late-model truck.
It’s cheap and relatively easy to work on and extremely reliable. There just aren’t nearly as many things to go wrong on it.
And.... it’s so much better looking! The new ones are SO UGLY!


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RV Jim wrote:

ktosv wrote:

I have often thought the OEM’s should offer a version of their vehicles that don’t contain all of the advancements and safety features of the last 40 years.

They probably could sell them at a much reduced price for those that don’t like car prices of today. Of course the consumer would need to sign a waiver stating they won’t sue when they are injured or more likely killed when in an accident.

If you park a 35-40 year vehicle next to a new vehicle the differences are astounding.


Yes, but you could work on that 35-40 year old truck with room to spare.
I worked at a Ford dealer in 1978 and that was the first year trucks hit the $10,000 mark.


Have you even opened the hood on any newer rear wheel drive gasser vehicle? Or are you just stuck reminiscing about the “good old days?”
That question is rhetorical, as it’s a given you’re just complaining about “new” stuff.
Sure newer diesel emissions have mucked up under hood access, but you can’t compare the performance to whatever 40-50 year old pooch your referring to as having “room to spare.”


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burningman wrote:

I’ve got no intention of ever selling my1986 GMC 4x4 crew cab dually.
I might put a Cummins diesel in it, although it’s actually lots cheaper to put gas in it than to do the diesel swap or buy a new or late-model truck.
It’s cheap and relatively easy to work on and extremely reliable. There just aren’t nearly as many things to go wrong on it.
And.... it’s so much better looking! The new ones are SO UGLY!


While I can’t fault your love for a 86 GMC (just bought one last year, currently restoring), the rest of your argument is as dumb as chit flavored chocolates….
I got a nice unmolested truck that everything worked on it and I can tell you I’ve fixed at least a couple dozen things that I haven’t touched in 30 years on newer vehicles. Is it because 80s GM iron is no good? Little of that but mostly, IT’S OLD. And just like you, cars don’t work as well and need repair when they’re OLD.
And let’s not even compare performance.
My truck has a healthy 454 in it and it’s fun. It also s ucks donkey dong for towing performance and comfort compared to newer trucks. Just how it is. Even if it’s fun to reminisce…

Bottom line, anyone making these types of statements is either defending/hiding their financial inability to have a new truck or simply being obtuse for the sake of arguing. (And resistant to change)

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@burningman, your sig says it all.
Don’t see you hauling the TC on the GMC and your “newer” diesel has, wait, what?
Tuned, injectors (guaranteed, or at least it should), built trans to overcome that weak chit, gear vendors? Lol, thought 86 was the pinnacle of trucks and you added more gears to your ‘99 and exhaust brake.
So in all, you’ve added an easy 10grand givertake just in parts to get your truck closer to performing like a newer diesel does right off the car lot….and you do your own work.
Someone who doesn’t could put a 30% down payment on a new diesel just with parts and labor for your “mods.” And would still have a old floppy, ill handling truck with little brakes, drums in back, loud and with a VP pump. The CP4 of the 90s, lol!
Just sayin…..

To be fair, I understand cars, I like trucks and modding both. But I don’t get lost in the past!

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Grit dog wrote:

@burningman, your sig says it all.
Don’t see you hauling the TC on the GMC and your “newer” diesel has, wait, what?
Tuned, injectors (guaranteed, or at least it should), built trans to overcome that weak chit, gear vendors? Lol, thought 86 was the pinnacle of trucks and you added more gears to your ‘99 and exhaust brake.
So in all, you’ve added an easy 10grand givertake just in parts to get your truck closer to performing like a newer diesel does right off the car lot….and you do your own work.
Someone who doesn’t could put a 30% down payment on a new diesel just with parts and labor for your “mods.” And would still have a old floppy, ill handling truck with little brakes, drums in back, loud and with a VP pump. The CP4 of the 90s, lol!
Just sayin…..

To be fair, I understand cars, I like trucks and modding both. But I don’t get lost in the past!



I will add this little story about "getting lost in the past". I bought an 84 K30 4X4 SRW with a 6.2L used with 43K on it in 1989 when I was about a year from getting out of the Corps (Ironically from my Sgt Major). Injector pump was out, typical issue at the time. I paid one of the USMC Hummer mechanics a case of beer and he swapped it out for me. Kept that truck until 1998 or so. I sold it with 225K on it. I loved that truck. I had contemplated for years about finding another and putting a Duramax in it. About 8 years ago, the Chevy dealer called and said they had an '85 K-30 4X4 SRW with a 454 they brought in on trade. Would sell it to me for $2500. It was in exceptional shape, Silverado, power windows and locks, everything I wanted. Drove it about 30 miles and brought it back and walked away. I felt like I was driving a grain truck from my childhood days. That 30 mile test drive was all I needed to save myself tens of thousands of dollars. My memories of the truck were much better than reality. New paint is expensive, but you are getting a lot more truck as well.


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^Totally. Makes sense. But new truck convo aside, $2500 for a good shape Big block K30 4x4 square?? O M G
You’d have an easy 50% per year returning that thing now!
I mean, I love bombing around in my old CJ5. To the store or on a trail or across town maybe.
My 86 GMC, also fun to drive. Loud, lifted, big block, cooool! Don’t mind even driving that to seattle. 3000rpms at 70 mph is a bit muc though. In fairness an original truck with taller gears would be more user friendly and comfortable.
Both would make it to Colorado and back. And the truck would tow a camper
But unless out of necessity, I wouldn’t consider it with either, not in the least. I’d at a minimum have a GMT 400 if I was doing road trips in an older truck.

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Yea in hindsight, if I would have just bought it and left it alone it would be worth a lot of money right now. It was a great deal. There are precious few of the K-30 4X4 SRW's running around, especially loaded like this one was.

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