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I keep seeing so many stories about fiberglass walls delaminating and the such with luan as part of the construction. I see people who don't even have water damage and the walls are coming apart. So, would you only buy a trailer that uses Azdel or is there good reason to buy one that doesn't have it because the manufacturer has a superior reputation for wall construction and longivity? I realize that there are a ton of factors at play, I'm speaking generally. I haven't kept one more than 3 years and I seriously doubt there's a manufacturer that would stand behind their walls for 5, much less 10 years.
Some highly praised names don't use it, such as Grand Design, Northwoods, Outdoors RV, etc.
Sales people in general won't trash talk either if they have both kinds of trailers in stock. If they only have one kind, well, you know it's the best.

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I keep hearing good things about Azdel and some prominent names in the industry use it.

Would not be a deal breaker in my personal experience and that being.....have never had a single delam issue in 4 fiberglass trailers and previous trailer was 10 yrs old when sold.

Have seen many delamination in trailers sitting in permanent locations with the likely culprit being water intrusion and lack of preventative maintenance.

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I know some of it is marketing hype just like "automotive paint front end cap" and many others. But I haven't read a lot of good about Luan. Northwoods, Grand Design, Outdoors RV are not inexpensive trailers and for whatever reason, they have not incorporated it yet. Much lesser expensive trailers use it, my Gulfstream 17RWD has it, so I don't get it.
BTW- I miss the mountains! Grew up in Roanoke and Boones Mill VA.

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When we buy our next trailer (fairly soon), I will negotiate to have the roof maintenance covered by some sort of contract if there is such a thing. These TT manufacturers absolutely love to blame improper/lack of roof maintenance from customer and deny warranty claims. I don't think I've found one RV company google review where I haven't read that several times.

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Most brands that use azdel only use it for the substrate layer directly behind the fiberglass on the sidewalls. Not the inner substrate layer nor the floor, roof, or front or rear walls.

Although the azdel is water resistant, the adhesive used to bond the whole mess together is low voc water based thanks to the EPA so the laminated assembly can still delaminate. The fiberglass can delaminate from the azdel or the azdel can delaminate from the foam core.

Its certainly a better material than Luan but its not anything to really get excited about. Maybe if they replaced every piece of luan or other plywood in the entire trailer with it but I know of no one who uses it everywhere. Marketing shell game.

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“Sales people in general won't trash talk...”

Assumes salespeople know something about RVs.


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Since Azdel is a man made product and the exterior fiberglass is as well even if you get water in between and you get some delam you shouldn't have the big pucker bubbles like you would with luan. Luan will breakdown and pucker and separate like plywood will. Think of Azdel like you would cement board siding for houses. It's virtually impervious to water.
I think it's better than Luan but in the end I want a floor plan I can enjoy. So many other factors come into play when deciding on an RV.
Siding is one as is the frame, suspension, lighting, interior finishes, storage, layout, etc.
If you take care of your RV with regular maintenance you should avoid most problems. I've seen 10-15 year old RV's with fiberglass over laun walls that look fine. I've seen new ones that have had delam within a couple years. Those latter are rare IMO. Get a plumbing leak and there goes you floor regardless of what walls you have. Maintenance, maintenance maintenance.

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I have read no negative reports regarding Azdel.

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So, how often does the roof need resealing if you store it indoors? We had a Kodiak years ago and never touched it for 2 years and it sat outside and never had a leak. Lucky I guess.
I really like the Keystone Premier 26UPDR, love the fully fiberglass covered front end. Also really like the Grand Design Imagine 2610ML- neither are Azdel. I suspect wall construction and overall build quality mean more than just saying you use Azdel.

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Stclairm wrote:

So, how often does the roof need resealing if you store it indoors?.


Storing indoor under roof will definitely add longevity but keeping roof clean and inspection is still recommended.

The trailer we owned from 2009 - 2019 we resealed twice and was stored outside uncovered.

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