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I'm with Second Chance, I don't think you have enough vehicle for that trailer. Look at the GCVR: To find your truck's towing capacity, subtract your truck's curb weight from its Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating (GCVWR). The GCVWR is the maximum weight of your loaded truck and the weight of its attached trailer. Towing Capacity = Gross Combined Vehicle Weight – Curb Weight.

I really suspect your way over.


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MGivens79 wrote:

All the research we have done says our vehicle is sized fine for the trailer - and pulls it fine - except the swaying.


If it sways, It DOESN'T pull fine....

That trailer is too long for an Escalade ESV, which is basically a fancy Suburban. You are quoting brochure weights and guarantee you are much heavier at the scales. The 6.2L will pull it but you don't have the suspension to control it.

I find it hard to believe that even the most incompetent dealer would have sold you that trailer without a weight distributing hitch. If I was towing that trailer with my truck, I would still use a WD hitch.


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From Cadillac "With the right equipment, the Escalade ESV can move up to 8,100 pounds." They are not exactly CLEAR on what that means !

Besides the weight distribution hitch you need an electric brake controller and the appropriate wiring harness. The dealer who sold you the hitch probably can take care of that.

Personally, I think you will be fine as long as you don't overload the vehicle or the trailer. Simple things, like only fill the fresh water tank 25% and make sure to empty the gray and black water before hitting the road.

Take it slow until you get the hang of it. 55-65 on the highway is fine. Give yourself extra room to stop.

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Posted: 10/29/20 07:35pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You need to take your rig to a CAT scale. Weigh the truck and weigh the trailer. Also find out the hitch weight. Actual numbers count the most.


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You are right at the upper limit of your tow rating, and probably over the GVWR, as others have said.

Big problem is NOT pulling it, but STOPPING it and handling it in an emergency. That's where the relative weights of the trailer and the tow vehicle, and the tow vehicle wheel base, become important. Your setup is marginal.

Personally I would want a 3/4 ton truck like a F250 to pull that trailer.


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I've put this out many times when this question comes up- A Toyota pulled the space shuttle! Yep. Many years ago, it was a stunt by the company.
For a safe enjoyable journey, you need to get a 3/4 ton truck for a start, either set up the hitch or have a "competent" dealer install it, and try to hook up with an experienced RVer for your maiden voyage.
It sounds like the dealership was only interested in moving the unit out but I can't understand why they didn't address the hitch--the the hitches usually are brought up early on in the sale.
Please don't roast me on this---but, in almost 50,000 miles of pulling a trailer, I've never seen a Cadillac as a tow vehicle. They do make a great toad behind a motorhome though.
See ya out there.

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Blazing Zippers wrote:

I've put this out many times when this question comes up- A Toyota pulled the space shuttle! Yep. Many years ago, it was a stunt by the company.
For a safe enjoyable journey, you need to get a 3/4 ton truck for a start, either set up the hitch or have a "competent" dealer install it, and try to hook up with an experienced RVer for your maiden voyage.
It sounds like the dealership was only interested in moving the unit out but I can't understand why they didn't address the hitch--the the hitches usually are brought up early on in the sale.
Please don't roast me on this---but, in almost 50,000 miles of pulling a trailer, I've never seen a Cadillac as a tow vehicle. They do make a great toad behind a motorhome though.
See ya out there.


Have you ever seen a Surburban towing something? thats all this is, with a bunch more glitz and styling.

My bets are that there is not enough tongue weight, and the tires are not LT tires, so they are too soft, combined with the fact that it is not enough vehicle to be comfortably hauling a travel trailer that long. To me, the length is more of a problem than the weight. Plus that vehicle has extra soft suspension for the ride.

I did have a pic of an Escalade with a canoe on top and a 30 ft Airstream hooked to it, at the local truck stop, but cannot find it now on the phone.

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I have seen a lot of folks this year who are new to RV's that bought into the Covid RV fad. Despite being a couple or family with one or two children they purchased the biggest rig they could either find or afford. IMO its a my D&^k is bigger than your D&^k sort of thing they came to quickly regret. A dealer will push a buyer into the largest rig possible every time that commands the most profit.

""Sounds like your selling dealership is in to profits rather than customer service or education.""

Hahaha...thats funny. Which one isn't?

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Blazing Zippers wrote:

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Please don't roast me on this---but, in almost 50,000 miles of pulling a trailer, I've never seen a Cadillac as a tow vehicle. They do make a great toad behind a motorhome though.
See ya out there.


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