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mr61impala

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Posted: 11/05/20 06:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I found this on another RV website, don't know how to share the link but you could google 8 worst travel trailers. I know Forest River is not one brand, and that Coachmen is now a Forest River brand, but this is how it appeared.

Note: Since there are a lot of different options related to the question: “Which are travel trailer brands to avoid?”, to provide a fair answer, we conducted a survey to Camping is our life – a favorite Facebook group of many RVers with more than 100,000 members. With appropriately 3,000 answers, here is what we got:

What travel trailers brands to avoid in 2020:

Forest River travel trailer brand: 45%
Keystone travel trailer brand: 26%
Jayco travel trailer brand: 15%
Coachmen travel trailer brand: 5%
Winnebago travel trailer brand: 3%
Fleetwood travel trailer brand: 2%
Gulf Stream travel trailer brand: 1%

The rest 3% came to some other brands: Coleman, Thor,…


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I did check out Grand Design, it wasn't for me. I believe I will end up with a Forest River product as I feel like I'll have better luck with our local mobile RV repair guy fixing it if it needs anything. He's also way closer to me than anyone else and once Covid finally ends, he'll be mobile again.
Keep in mind that Forest River has a boatload of travel trailers they sell, so those numbers will be higher. My Gulfstream already had a water leak at 5 months and a few other shoddy workmanship issues.
While I thought I liked Winnebago, they use some cheap materials in some areas too. They use OSB style plywood under the beds and wood studs underneath instead of aluminum where others use smooth plywood and aluminum structure bracing. Also didn't notice anything better inside their trailers vs Forest River's.

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In 2012, we purchased a Salem by Forest River. Great layout for our family, but a lower end unit. I noticed the counter was slanted, wires pulled so tight under a cabinet that they shorted, water leaks, and the roof leak you speak of. Only thing I had dealer fixed was the first issue....the water leak from the roof. Front cap to the roof was the issue. Warranty covered a tube of Dicor. Once it leaked again, I used Eternabond tape and never went back for warranty -- waste of my time.

Our current C has issues I've fixed along the way, and more that annoy me but I'm not fixing.


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mr61impala wrote:

I found this on another RV website, don't know how to share the link but you could google 8 worst travel trailers. I know Forest River is not one brand, and that Coachmen is now a Forest River brand, but this is how it appeared.

Note: Since there are a lot of different options related to the question: “Which are travel trailer brands to avoid?”, to provide a fair answer, we conducted a survey to Camping is our life – a favorite Facebook group of many RVers with more than 100,000 members. With appropriately 3,000 answers, here is what we got:

What travel trailers brands to avoid in 2020:

Forest River travel trailer brand: 45%
Keystone travel trailer brand: 26%
Jayco travel trailer brand: 15%
Coachmen travel trailer brand: 5%
Winnebago travel trailer brand: 3%
Fleetwood travel trailer brand: 2%
Gulf Stream travel trailer brand: 1%

The rest 3% came to some other brands: Coleman, Thor,…


Looked up sales numbers (these are overall for RVs. I couldn't find travel trailer specific):

Thor owns Keystone & Jayco and with other brands about 50% of the market

Forest River owns Forest River and Coachmen and with other brands about 33% of the market

Winnebago is about 8% of the market.

REV owns Fleetwood and about 3% of the market with other brands.

Gulf Stream is independent and under 1%.

Add in a bit of buyers bias (people who spend far more for a supposed better brand are less likely to slam that brand), and what you basically have is a survey that largely mimics sales.

I'm betting if you found the actual travel trailer sales, it would match even closer (ie: Winnebago is primarily a MH shop that does a few travel trailers. Keystone & Thor are primarily trailer shops that do a few MHs).

Without compensating for sales numbers and where they are drawing the survey population from, these numbers mean a whole lot of nothing.


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Posted: 11/05/20 08:13am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Buy what you want and the first thing to do when you get home is check the roof and add sealant anywhere you think looks suspect. And repeat this at least once a year.
Fixing RV components is not rocket science but getting water intrusion can destroy any RV brand in a short time. Most new RV owners don't have a clue that the roof needs attention every year. And because of this they get 2 years in and they are complaining on the internet about failures.


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Grand Design has several Transcend XPLOR models under $30K. We've not owned a Transcend, but we've owned two Grand Design fifth wheels (a Reflection and a Solitude) and have have very good look with their build quality and very few (small) warranty issues. GD has stepped up to the plate in each situation.

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Contrary to popular belief, TTs and not built by minimum wage workers. But wages are not the issue.

TT's are built as quickly as possible. With the materials that will do the job. However, if you watch some of the assembly videos on the web you can see a very quick paced assembly.

The issue is; the level of quality is sufficient to meet the consumer demands. Those afore mentioned TTs with better quality reputations are also significantly more (10 to 15%) expensive.

The really is, there is not much incentive to improve the quality, if the market will buy what you offer.


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Even worse now as newbies are buying them up like McRib's.
Agree with Schlep. I will get a ladder and store it in the trailer so I can reseal the roof as needed. I think we're going with the Spirit 2557RB as the other dealer two hours away is open M-F 9-5. We both absolutely loved the floorplan. It just didn't have a ladder or 12V fridge and they just got one in with the 12V fridge. I can get a 12.5 ft telescoping ladder for $100.

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I check my 5er 2X a year for possible areas where the sealant might need replacement. Your RV travels on a road and can flex when traveling. A stick built home should not move in the wind, but still can get leaks. All man made products require maintenance periodically so they last.

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I just put a deposit on the Spirit 2557RB. I have my current trailer loan with them and called US Bank to see what they could do, and while they offered me a great rate, the dealer beat them by .75%. Looks like I can even use the Husky WD hitch off our 17RWD because the dealer I bought it from in February had put the next step up hitch on it. We should be picking it up Saturday if all goes as it should.

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