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Posted: 11/20/20 07:20pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Having made a living using them all I prefer a 3/4 ton HD which can handle 3000-3400 lb of load in the bed safely/legally. BTDT.
Never saw the need for a one ton SRW which depending on truck brand may not have any more in the bed payload than the 3/4 ton HD.

Everyone has their likes/dislikes in truck sizes which is fine with me.
Any of the 3/4 ton truck will serve the OP with room to spare.


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Posted: 11/21/20 08:19am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My only comment is that watch what 5th wheel you purchase today using a 3/4-1 ton truck due to the fact that the newer trucks sit much higher in the rear and they can cause you to tow "nose high" with your trailer.
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JIMNLIN wrote:

Having made a living using them all I prefer a 3/4 ton HD which can handle 3000-3400 lb of load in the bed safely/legally. BTDT.
Never saw the need for a one ton SRW which depending on truck brand may not have any more in the bed payload than the 3/4 ton HD.

Everyone has their likes/dislikes in truck sizes which is fine with me.
Any of the 3/4 ton truck will serve the OP with room to spare.


No doubt as said the 3/4 ton will get the job done, nobody disagrees, but it has its limits .

I would like to see the numbers you claim on 3/4 ton has the same payload as the 1 ton, show me the numbers on any brand that has more payload , apples to apples, not different configurations, but the same truck .

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JIMNLIN wrote:

Having made a living using them all I prefer a 3/4 ton HD which can handle 3000-3400 lb of load in the bed safely/legally. BTDT.
Never saw the need for a one ton SRW which depending on truck brand may not have any more in the bed payload than the 3/4 ton HD.

Everyone has their likes/dislikes in truck sizes which is fine with me.
Any of the 3/4 ton truck will serve the OP with room to spare.

We are talking the OP just getting into towing a 5er and asking questions.
There is no physical difference in the truck size between a 3/4 ton and a one ton STW, so the smart money is on getting the one ton.
It has slightly stronger springs and a higher GVWR and Payload.
I carried a 5er 1,700# over GVWR for years and never felt unsafe, but I never told or encouraged others to do the same.
I went for a 3500 DRW, because with what we carry in the truck a 3500 SRW with out 2,700# pin would be within a couple hundred pounds or even over GVWR of 12,300#.


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I would like to see the numbers you claim on 3/4 ton has the same payload as the 1 ton, show me the numbers on any brand that has more payload , apples to apples, not different configurations, but the same truck .

Never said apples to apples truck configurations. I said quote.... "Never saw the need for a one ton SRW which depending on truck brand may not have any more in the bed payload than the 3/4 ton HD."

Hell anyone that knows how to read Fleet Ford specs knows some F350 srw can have the same GVWR/RAWR as the F250 and the same payloads.

But you did bring up a good point of a loaded F350 SRW 6.7 crew cab 4wd 159" wb with a 2500 lb payload vs a F250 std cab long bed 6.7 2wd 141" wb with a 3450 lb payload.

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Russ wrote:

There is no physical difference in the truck size between a 3/4 ton and a one ton STW, so the smart money is on getting the one ton.
It has slightly stronger springs and a higher GVWR and Payload.

Depending on new/used brands and year models and configurations and gvwr/rawr package the OP is looking at we have certain 3/4 ton trucks out here with more actual in the bed payloads or even GVWR based payloads than certain one ton srw trucks.

Like others have said the 3/4 ton HD will work fine for a 10000 gvwr 5th wheel trailer which certainly don't need a one ton srw...unless he just wants one.

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JIMNLIN wrote:

Russ wrote:

There is no physical difference in the truck size between a 3/4 ton and a one ton STW, so the smart money is on getting the one ton.
It has slightly stronger springs and a higher GVWR and Payload.

Depending on new/used brands and year models and configurations and gvwr/rawr package the OP is looking at we have certain 3/4 ton trucks out here with more actual in the bed payloads or even GVWR based payloads than certain one ton srw trucks.

Like others have said the 3/4 ton HD will work fine for a 10000 gvwr 5th wheel trailer which certainly don't need a one ton srw...unless he just wants one.


Seems to me you are talking the way Ford plays games with GVWR’s!
Yep, Ford will sell you a F350 SRW with a 9,900# GVWR, or a 12,400# GVWR and several in between!
They will also sell you an F450 with a GVWR of 14,000# and an F350 DRW with a GVWR of 14,000# giving an about 300# payload advantage to the F350. [emoticon]

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You might be able to get an f250 that will comfortably handle your trailer but if you get the same truck with the f350 badge on it it will have an overload spring in the rear and a be able to comfortably carry more weight. What is the advantage of the f250? The price of the two trucks is almost identical.


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I would like to see the numbers you claim on 3/4 ton has the same payload as the 1 ton, show me the numbers on any brand that has more payload , apples to apples, not different configurations, but the same truck .

Never said apples to apples truck configurations. I said quote.... "Never saw the need for a one ton SRW which depending on truck brand may not have any more in the bed payload than the 3/4 ton HD."

Hell anyone that knows how to read Fleet Ford specs knows some F350 srw can have the same GVWR/RAWR as the F250 and the same payloads.

But you did bring up a good point of a loaded F350 SRW 6.7 crew cab 4wd 159" wb with a 2500 lb payload vs a F250 std cab long bed 6.7 2wd 141" wb with a 3450 lb payload.


Why are you bringing up different configurations. Let’s say the OP wants a crew cab short bed any brand ,the 1 ton in that truck is the higher payload , thats my point . Its simple here , get the 1 ton in the same truck , that’s what’s being said .

This is a family , at the least a crew cab , a std. cab is not even in the conversation, so I don’t get your point at all promoting a 3/4 ton .

You are the one reading the fleet ford specs, show the numbers . Same truck , 250,350 show me where the 2021 Ford Superduty SRW Crew Cab Lariat 250 has the same payload as the 350.

* This post was edited 11/22/20 10:54pm by cummins2014 *

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2014 wrote:

Why are you bringing up different configurations. Let’s say the OP wants a crew cab short bed any brand ,the 1 ton in that truck is the higher payload , thats my point . Its simple here , get the 1 ton in the same truck , that’s what’s being said .

Again... reread what I said. The point I made was and still is not all one ton SRW brands have more payload than some brands of 3/4 ton trucks.
Your the one stuck on just using a single truck configurations.

However for your specific truck configuration which is a '21:fleet ford clicky

F250 crew cab 2wd 159" wb 7.3 gas shows a 3780 lb payload.

F350 srw crew cab 2wd 159" wb 7.3 gas shows a 3610 payload.
Both trucks have the same 10000 gvwrs.

I'm not going back and forth with you anymore. I've made my point about not all one ton srw truck brands have more payload vs a 3/4 ton truck.

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