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BFL13

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Posted: 01/06/21 03:02pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I don't have a for sure answer on the wifi for a long 5er.

I was able to walk about 100ft back from the back window camera and still see myself on the iPad. I was able to go out front of the MH about 20 ft and still got the picture from near 50ft, but off to the side with more MH in the way, not the front window see right through, I lost the signal. However, I got behind the truck with camper on it with the front of the truck to the back quarter of the MH for about 35 ft or so and got the signal.

It goes with line of sight but also with barriers in the way what you get. I think at 50 ft it might be spotty, hard to know.

Discovered it has a time delay if that matters for a rear view. I could see myself move and stop, and the picture caught up after I stopped. I counted one, two, but before I said two it caught up.

I mounted the camera on a piece of wood and can move the piece of wood between RVs. You don't need two of the OEM holders.

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What can you say about the networking? Does it create its own SSID that your mobile device has to connect to, or can it connect to another network where all your devices can access it?

I have a WiFi camera on the rear of my off-road car (there's no visibility out the back of the CanAm), but I'm not crazy about it. It creates its own network SSID, so my iPad can only connect to the cam and can't see my hotspot.

I have a great hotspot in my fiver and I can connect to it from the cab of my pickup. If the cam could see the hotspot and my tablet can see the hotspot from the cab, then this would work for me. But if the cam generates its own named network, I'd have two strikes against me, because I don't like that network setup and I'm sure I wouldn't be able to access the camera's network at the rear of my 45' fiver.

This looks pretty interesting though.

I'm glad you found a solution you're happy with.


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Posted: 01/06/21 05:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think you would want two devices--one for the rear view mirror job, and the other being your actual device.

You have to go the app store and get the free Hopkins app installed on your device. You could get that on more than one of your devices I suppose. You get your device to select the Hopkins wifi so it is on that, and they give you a password. You only have to use the password the first time. Your device can only be on one hotspot at a time and now you are on that.

I don't know the technology for wifi boosters for how they boost a particular signal.

I use the old iPad no longer in use for the mirror display, but I have a smart cell phone that is for "real" stuff. (Except it is not to be used when on the road of course.) So no conflict with hot spots for the cell phone. It can do data on the carrier's that you pay for, or else free hotspots if any around.

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Posted: 01/06/21 05:40pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BFL13 wrote:



I mounted the camera on a piece of wood and can move the piece of wood between RVs. You don't need two of the OEM holders.


ya, I would want two brackets so I can mount it like they show in there video. It would drive me batty if I saw sun glare reflections or raindrops on the window [emoticon] I wonder if one could use some sort of wifi repeater with it.....

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Posted: 01/06/21 06:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Turns out there is a "button" you can push on the side of the picture that turns the camera lights on and off. Picture is quite clear through the glass now with the lights off. [emoticon] (It is not dark like in my photo, which is at a bad angle for the iPad.)

Off tomorrow for a couple days up-Island between monsoons, so should learn how this thing works in real life. It is just to look out the back window same as the rear view mirror does; it does not replace the side mirrors. It does have a wide angle look out the back though so more view than the real rear view mirror would have. We'll see!

That 100ft out back view was just to the end of our driveway for the wifi connection test--could have gone farther, but you can see farther back. I will know how that goes once I get out on the road how far back you can see cars.

Yes, there must be a clever tech thing for boosting the wifi, but I don't know it. Ask a 13 year old! [emoticon]

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Posted: 01/08/21 02:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It makes driving so much better, being able to see behind you! Some things, so far.
-It is not distracting and in your face, so it is perfect for that.
- Cars appear father back than they do in the side mirrors. Have to learn what is real for distances.
-My "driving" glasses (upper bifocals) are not right for the display distance but good enough. Hard to make out cars clearly that are still way back until they get closer behind.
- The time delay reported before affects things a little. You see a car starting to pass on the left, and there it is in the side mirror up beside you! How did he get there so fast? [emoticon]
-If you pass, you want to get back in front of the car you passed. Side mirror is for that still! The rear view camera shows it sort of, but I can't tell if it safe to get over from that. With the time delay, I think that means you are farther past him than it looks, but I find it confusing so the side mirror is what counts.
-Bright sunshine in the side window makes it hard to see anything on the display.
-I expect trouble in rain when the back window gets messy from the vortex like it does making it hard for the camera to see. Have to keep the back window clean whenever there is a chance. (I don't know what happens with the camera outside like it is supposed to be--how would you clean off the lens with it up there by a clearance light?)
-It does help backing up for sure. It has those lanes you can push a button to get, which I don't use (side mirror for that), but it is good just to know there is not a car that snuck in behind you since you got in the MH.

First impressions for now, but I am very pleased with it. [emoticon]

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Posted: 01/08/21 08:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just about anywhere you put a backup camera, it’s going to get dirty when it rains. It’s especially bad in the winter when the roads are covered with slush, dirty water, salt, sand, etc. Mine is above the entry door on the back of the camper, and I have to clean it’s lens off once or twice a day when it’s wet and sloppy out.

Your topic got me to thinking about how many cameras I’ve had on the camper. Turns out I’ve had three. The first one I bought from a dealer on eBay. It was a relatively low-res hardwired camera, and it had an IR array that helped at night because the reverse lights on the camper were not that great. The date on this image is 2012, so that would have been when I had my first F450 pickup (a black 2010). I didn’t know of anyone who sold a custom cable to connect it to the tailgate camera cable, so I made one.

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I think it lasted less than two years before the image became unstable and started rolling. I replaced it with a higher res unit from Camera Source on a clearance sale. It still had an IR array and the image was very good. When I got my current truck, I used the same camera connected to the tailgate camera connector. I think I had to move one wire on the cable I made to match the pin out of the new trucks plug.

That camera worked good on the new truck, or so I thought. After a few trips, I started having problems with it not turning on. I called CS and spoke to their tech support, and I remember them telling me “Oh, that camera is a low-voltage model. You shouldn’t be using that, you should have this one”. I don’t know what they meant by that and I don’t remember anything “low voltage” in its description when I bought it, but I bought yet a third camera.

Trouble is, after a few trips it started not turning on occasionally as well. [emoticon] It took a while before I realized that it was only not turning on when it was dark enough that it also needed to turn on the IR array. For a while, I was working around that by having the boss shine a bright flashlight at it as I shifted into reverse when it was dark, to fool it into just turning the camera on first without the IR LED’s. Talk about a PITA though, not to mention a great way to start an argument. In the meantime, I had installed some kick-butt reverse lights on the camper.

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After a few trips using those mini arc-lights (and liking them a lot), it occurred to me that I really don’t need those IR LED’s any longer, and since the new truck for some reason doesn’t like them turning on with the camera, I should just disable them. I took that third camera apart, and found that it was really horrible assembly on the inside. No plug connections at all, just soldered wires. Stacks of nylon washers for stand-offs. I tried clipping the wires going to the LED board, but that wasn’t enough. The truck still wouldn’t turn the camera on if it was dark.

I got the second (low-voltage) camera out of my stash, and took it apart. It was much better constructed on the inside. Mini plug connectors, and proper stand-offs between the camera board and the IR array board. I unplugged the array board, and now that “low voltage” camera is back on the camper. It turns on every time, even in the dark. The new reverse lights provide plenty of light for the camera at night now.

Nothing’s easy. [emoticon]

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More lessons:
-turned the iPad brightness to max--better!
-you can see it with sun glasses on
-driving home in the rain, picture blurry with wet back window, but you can still make out what is happening-sort of.

Not a tech issue, but Mex sometimes mentions he was RVing on the Island here and stayed at Englishman River park. So here is a photo of the upper falls from two days ago to remind him what he is missing by being across the wrong border! [emoticon]

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Posted: 01/11/21 02:35pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My cell phone says it can do "hotspot" or tethering. Would that work as a "booster" for the camera wifi in a long trailer/long truck? (where it is too far for the wifi now)

Eg, I have an iPad on the truck's mirror and the camera at the back of the RV. If I use the cell phone in the front of the RV with the Hopkins app to get the camera's wifi (so it is free that way NOT using "data"),

and turn on the cell's "hotspot", would that give the signal to the iPad it could select as its "network" in the truck for that extra distance?

EDIT--the cell seems to have its hotspot with Bluetooth. I have a question about this idea or another booster in to Hopkins. I will pass along any info.

* This post was edited 01/11/21 03:18pm by BFL13 *

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