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BFL13

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Posted: 11/26/20 11:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

DrewE wrote:

For the class C, at least, where you can see some of the window, try a stick-on fresnel wide-angle lens on the window. It's not the same as a backup camera, and definitely less useful at night, but during the day they work remarkably well and give a surprisingly good view of everything in back of the RV...and, of course, are not very expensive and not prone to suddenly breaking or having interference or running out of battery power.


I forgot about those! There was one in the C we got the previous owner had, but it was in poor shape and we tossed it. Hmmmm.

Meanwhile, I see they have a rear cam in the local store that uses wifi and you use your "mobile device" up front as the display. (I suspected there might be one like that as mentioned earlier)

I am waiting to hear back from the Mounties on what they think of that. The guy I spoke with didn't know, has to find out from their "Traffic" folks what they would do if they saw somebody doing that. Big no-no here to use a cell phone while driving--even while stopped at a light. (rule ignored by some! tow truck driver towing my RV home recently was on his cell a lot getting the word where his next tow job was, eg)


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Meanwhile, I see they have a rear cam in the local store that uses wifi and you use your "mobile device" up front as the display. (I suspected there might be one like that as mentioned earlier)

I am waiting to hear back from the Mounties on what they think of that. The guy I spoke with didn't know, has to find out from their "Traffic" folks what they would do if they saw somebody doing that. Big no-no here to use a cell phone while driving--even while stopped at a light. (rule ignored by some! tow truck driver towing my RV home recently was on his cell a lot getting the word where his next tow job was, eg)


Hopefully you get a straight answer from the RCMP and not an off the cuff answer. After all, politicians made the rules, so they are not well written, and the cops have just as much trouble figuring them out as we do.... [emoticon]

As for theft..... It's Victoria!!!! They'll smash your window at noon on Douglas for a wooden nickle in your ash tray......

5"....3.5"...... It's Cambodian Tire..... no surprise if they're don't know......

Since you want to swap between vehicles but have wireless concerns, what about going wired but getting a second wiring harness. Then you just plug/unplug. I think anything wireless and in the budget category is gonna be pretty unsatisfactory. Buy once,cry once.

My new camper is coming with a camera. Plus the new truck with have a tailgate cam too. Since the tail gate will be off when the TC is on I was thinking a second tail gate cam, if one can be ordered as an OEM replacement part, might be useful to set up as a freely placeable cam to help with TC loading. I could make a box for it and sit it against the back wall of the bed to have a good view while backing under the TC. Just a spit-ball idea.....anyhow.....
Check London Drugs too. They have a small selection of dash cams that might work if they have a live view. And having it record might be a good thing in case someone hits you while texting and driving. (don't get me started on that topic.....)
I think if you have a phone as a monitor, on your mirror or a dash mount, as long as you aren't fiddling with it while driving, you'll be good. They mostly look for people looking at their laps as an indicator of someone texting. Glancing at your screen if on the rear view won't hardly be noticeable. Could always hang it below your dash top, on a heater vent. But that's not great as it takes your eyes of the road more then if windshield mounted.
But, see what the Po-Po says.
And never take the word of a sales person!


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Posted: 12/12/20 10:03pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The Mountie I was talking to did call me back. Was unable to get hold of the senior Traffic guy at the time to get a proper answer. I will try again in the new year. I spent my camera money on a second SiO2 battery so the camera idea is on hold for now.

Good idea to have one set of camera and display with two wiring sets. I did that with my Trimetric battery monitor, where each RV has the shunt and wire and I move the display back and forth. I used four-pin trailer connections on the Trimetric wiring so it is easy to plug in the display in whichever RV I need it. I don't know what sort of wires these cameras use, but some version of that would work. Maybe MC4s or whatever.

Kind of dumb to put the camera in a truck's tailgate. I never used our OEM tailgate when we had the 5er (had a 5er type with the notch), and not with the truck camper either.

There must be a plug-in for the camera when you take off the tailgate, so that would show what kind of plug-in to use.

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The Mountie I was talking to did call me back. Was unable to get hold of the senior Traffic guy at the time to get a proper answer. I will try again in the new year. I spent my camera money on a second SiO2 battery so the camera idea is on hold for now.

Good idea to have one set of camera and display with two wiring sets. I did that with my Trimetric battery monitor, where each RV has the shunt and wire and I move the display back and forth. I used four-pin trailer connections on the Trimetric wiring so it is easy to plug in the display in whichever RV I need it. I don't know what sort of wires these cameras use, but some version of that would work. Maybe MC4s or whatever.

Kind of dumb to put the camera in a truck's tailgate. I never used our OEM tailgate when we had the 5er (had a 5er type with the notch), and not with the truck camper either.

There must be a plug-in for the camera when you take off the tailgate, so that would show what kind of plug-in to use.


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I this the back-up cam is in the tailgate for best point of view. Yes, I assume the gate will have some sort of wire harness/plug. Power remote control tail gate open is an option as well. So don't know if it will all be integrated into one plug or separate plugs. In any case, would be something someone can figure out. I just figured the cam would be handy as backing up my 98 GMC 2500 ext. cab is going to seam easy compared to the way bigger F350 crew cab, LB dually. Yikes! That and loading the new camper, I'm gonna wish I didn't quit smoking and drinking after that first load up! XD

Something else to consider. If you find a camera that works with a phone as the screen, if you have an old phone kicking around, you could use that so your not using your primary phone. I use my old phones as internet radio players to hook up to stereos at the shop and my house. You pretty much need a new one every 3 yrs anyway as the security updates run out. So might as well get some use out of them.

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I bought from Amazon for less than $100 a wireless rear cam for my TT that doesn't freeze and gets great reception between camera mounted on my trailer parked 100' and the 5" monitor in my TV when I first set them up.

Was so impressed that I ordered another and mounted the camera on my boat which allowed me to view tailgaters as well as backing down the launch ramp.

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"The investigation is continuing and police are asking that anyone with dash cam footage of the incident contact the Nanaimo RCMP"

I have seen a few of these requests in the news lately after car crashes, etc. Makes you think the police are ok with dash cams. I don't know if that includes rear view cams on while driving.

Are dash cams looking forward displayed all the time? If so that seems not to count as a "distraction" based on these requests. Beats me!

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"The investigation is continuing and police are asking that anyone with dash cam footage of the incident contact the Nanaimo RCMP"

I have seen a few of these requests in the news lately after car crashes, etc. Makes you think the police are ok with dash cams. I don't know if that includes rear view cams on while driving.

Are dash cams looking forward displayed all the time? If so that seems not to count as a "distraction" based on these requests. Beats me!


Dash cams mostly don't have screens, so doesn't count as distracted driving. Nav's don't count as long as you're not muckin' about with it while driving.

For the most part, it's cell phone users they are after. It's the fact people get engrossed having to read and type that takes away their attention for too long. Things like nav's are usually a quick glance and most talk to you anyway.

I think somewhere in Germany, maybe, they brought in distracted driving laws. But politicians being idiots, they failed to exempt cars built with all digital touch screen controls, like Tesla's. So owners are getting big fines for turning off the window heater.....

"Dash cams" seem to be the term for both front and rear facing video cameras.

To be honest, chief, if it was me, I'd put it in and just go on your merry way. Really, won could easily argue that it's a safety devise given the use with a camper on. As long as you are tapping away on the screen like a 15 yr/old on lunch break, you'll be fine.

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I got one! [emoticon]

I chose this and it works great

https://hopkinstowingsolutions.com/products/towing-cameras/50050.html

They have a good video there so you can see how it works.

It has a short wire from the camera that takes 12v. They suggest attaching to an upper back clearance light for the view and also perhaps to make it really hard to steal.

I wanted to just keep it inside looking out the back window and get 12v to it another way. Done. So it is portable to use in whichever RV we are using. It sees out the window just fine. Need to make a stand for it that stays in place.

One thing is the window reflects the camera lights which you have to ignore. Water drops on window, ignore. The MH has those dark windows, so the picture there is sort of gloomy, but it is clearer with the TC.

Display is to your "device" you must use somehow while driving. I have an older small iPad that I attach to the rear view mirror with elastic bands. Portable to the truck or the MH. Plugs in to the dash cig lighter socket for keeping it charged.

You get the free app on your device (needs IOS 8 or Android 6 or newer), and select the Hopkins wifi--they give you a password in the instruction manual that comes with the camera.

Ta da! What a neat gizmo! [emoticon] Note a reviewer said there is a distance limit of about 40 ft for the wifi so he had trouble with his 35 ft 5er and the truck length, but no problem with our set-ups.

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Update 5 Jan 21


but in BC you will be arrested and locked away for life for using a cell phone while driving, so I don't know abut that! No idea if they would consider the display on the mirror as a "distraction" either.
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if it is in the cup holder or on your lap or in your hand when you are using it yes you will get the big fine. if you have a mounting atachment for your phone so it is hard mounted to the dash by tabs or magnets then it is considered a display and you can use it as a gps or if you have a wifi or bluetooth back up camera you could use it for that as it is just a display at that point.

this was sored out in the summer with the lady in van who got a ticket for having her phone charging in the cupholder. it was off and she got a ticket which was throwen out in court.

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BFL13 wrote:

I got one! [emoticon]


Ta da! What a neat gizmo! [emoticon] Note a reviewer said there is a distance limit of about 40 ft for the wifi so he had trouble with his 35 ft 5er and the truck length, but no problem with our set-ups.


would you be able to get it going and start walking infront of your tuck and see what range you get? I would like one I could switch between my camper and 5th wheel ,and with the mounting bracket it uses that would be awsome if you could get a second mounting bracket. only problem is from the back of my 5th to the dash of my truck it is about 50 feet.

Steve

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