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Lwiddis

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Posted: 12/07/20 05:46pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Diesels are real kool when started at home, a roadside rest or campground but you pay dearly for that in decreased payload particularly in a 3/4 ton truck.


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Posted: 12/07/20 06:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My door sticker says 4292. I was reading an article on noob mistakes in Truck Camper Magazine today...it said a common error was buying a 3/4 ton with a diesel because the diesel eats up so much payload you're left with 1/2 ton capacity.


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I own a Reflection 367BHS, and I tow with a Ram 3500 SRW.

Im actually 10lbs over payload fully loaded, full tank of fuel.

By the time I get to the freeway, Im under payload.

2500 is not enough truck.

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rdmotex3 wrote:

So here's where I get lost.The sticker in the door says 2214? That mean I'm not even close. As I understand it my set up with a 3.31 axle could tow 14,100 but because of the pin weight of ~3,000# I would be over before I ever put it in drive? Sorry to be the noob here but it all makes my head hurt.

Well.... we all were noobs in the beginning till we learned which specs on a truck are tax purposes/emission specs/registration issues and which are the safe/legal load carrying specs.
The F250 is like all 3/4 ton trucks the most under rated truck on the road. Your truck has the same engine/tranny front and rear axle as the F350 SRW and if it has the heavy service pack option it can have the same spring packs as the SRW.

The truck will not struggle pulling a 14k trailer. But the rear suspension may not be up to carrying much over 3000 lb pin weight. Now add the 5th wheel hitch and other gear plus a percentage of occupants in the cabin. I would bet this trailer will overload the rear suspension unless it has the uprated spring pack options.

Fleet Ford specs say the your F250 has a 6340 RAWR that will carry all the pin weight. Using simple math ....your truck rear axle may weigh in the 3100 lb range leaving around 3200 lbs for a in the bed payload before exceeding a wheel/tire or possible the rear spring pack ratings.

You have the truck. AS others say drop by a set of scales and get its separate front and rear axle weights. That way you will know your trucks actual payload.

The next up Ford is the F350SRW with 7000 lb RAWR and good for around
3600 -3800 lbs in the bed. Better choice for 14k-15k lb trailers.


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RAWR and Wet PIN weight

YOU will be CLOSE

WEIGH THE TRUCK Camp- Ready then do the MATH


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JIMNLIN - are you saying that something like air bags would help or am I chasing a dead dream? I have heard the comparisons of 250 vs 350 but I don't know enough to make an informed decision. Not super interested in buying a new truck either so there is a part of me forcing the issue maybe?

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I am not talking about anything legal as far as what the sticker saids the truck will haul. Buy you can buy a set of hellwig progressive helper springs for the rear. I have a 2001 F250 extended cab with a 8ft bed.It has the 7.3 diesel with a 3:73 rear end. The only difference between it and a 1ton single wheel truck is the springs. I have a 25k airsafe air hitch you have to have a forklift to put it in the bed. I have a 37 gallon fuel tank in front of the tailgate. I have a generator between the air hitch and the front of the bed. I have a 2006 Carriage 5th wheel that fully loaded and weighed on a scale. Weighs a little over 14,700lbs. Of that is a little over 3,100lbs hitch weight. So their is 11,600lbs on the tires. When I am hitched and you look at my truck from the side. It is still not level. It is just a fraction above level at the back. The truck has no problem pulling my 5th wheel . It has been pulling it now for 14 years. I am not saying the truck is legal. But you can fix your truck to do the job if you want to.

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You can easily upgrade the springs to carry the weight, air bags are an option but I don't like to use them for taking considerable loads. Your 2020 does have a different rear differential than an F350, but it is the same as older F350's and they worked just fine. With only a little expense and work you can have F350 performance.





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Lynnmor wrote:

You can easily upgrade the springs to carry the weight, air bags are an option but I don't like to use them for taking considerable loads. Your 2020 does have a different rear differential than an F350, but it is the same as older F350's and they worked just fine. With only a little expense and work you can have F350 performance.


I agree, but would not hesitate to use air bags if needed. With the diesel upgrade, King Ranch, you likely have the 1 ton SRW tires and wheels. Look at max load on tires.

As some suggested, load it up, full fuel, weigh axles separately.

If you have the puck system, the B&W 3300 is a great hitch choice, and only weighs about 150 lbs.

Jerry





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Posted: 12/08/20 05:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Air bags/other rear suspension products is a good choice for suspension help with safely carrying more weight. Also your F250 needs the 18"-20" higher rated wheels/tires like the F350srw to go along with more suspension help. Most F250 already has them but better make sure your wheel are not 17" sizes with lower load ratings.
Modifiying your new trucks suspension is a call your going to have to make as it will affect Fords new trucks chassis/suspension warranty. Tough call.

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