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I’ve stumbled across what I believe is a decent deal on a 3500 CC. The catch is its SRW. I’ve never done a conversion to DRW nor 19.5” wheels. However using OEM parts will increase payload 2K for this model year and put me more comfortably where I need to be at a significant savings over a new truck. Just making sure the initial savings is worth it and not cause headaches down the road...

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A bit more info would help. What 3500 truck, brand/year, and what do you plan to tow with it?

Had a camp neighbor next to me with a converted 350 van, towing a little mini trailer.

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MFL wrote:

A bit more info would help. What 3500 truck, brand/year, and what do you plan to tow with it?

Had a camp neighbor next to me with a converted 350 van, towing a little mini trailer.

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Jerry

It’s a 4th Gen Ram 3500 CC and would be hauling 5-5500 in the bed and towing a small utility trailer. Most do the same with the 3500 DRW’s which why I’m looking at the conversion...

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That sounds fun but I would check the axle weight capacity to be sure it’s worth continuing. Craig

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C Schomer wrote:

That sounds fun but I would check the axle weight capacity to be sure it’s worth continuing. Craig

The conversion would include the upgraded axle....

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It sounds like a worthwhile upgrade, on a later model truck. The guy with the van in pic told me the cost of kit (I don't remember), and not a big deal to convert. I think cost was less than I expected, but you have likely checked on that.

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There’s 2 ways to covert. Buy the Arrowcraft kit and use the existing axle, but it might not have much reserve capacity left. It’s nearly as easy to just swap in a dually axle.

FWIW - I originally converted my can with the Arrowcraft kit. No issues with that kit, but my axle was a Dana 70 and was was still pushing a it 7,800# rating. One trip i spilt my diff carrier in half once when I jumped the van going a wee bit too fast, with a trailer in tow on a hitch extension. Then another trip I sheared the pinion gear, sending my driveline across the highway, when I did a 3rd to 1st WOT downshift with torque management turned off, when I went to pass a Honda Civic on a steep uphill while towing the travel trailer.

So now I have a dually Dana 80 axle. If I break this one, I’ll try the Dana S110 next, since my rear axle weight does top 13,000 pounds at times


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carringb wrote:

There’s 2 ways to covert. Buy the Arrowcraft kit and use the existing axle, but it might not have much reserve capacity left. It’s nearly as easy to just swap in a dually axle.

FWIW - I originally converted my can with the Arrowcraft kit. No issues with that kit, but my axle was a Dana 70 and was was still pushing a it 7,800# rating. One trip i spilt my diff carrier in half once when I jumped the van going a wee bit too fast, with a trailer in tow on a hitch extension. Then another trip I sheared the pinion gear, sending my driveline across the highway, when I did a 3rd to 1st WOT downshift with torque management turned off, when I went to pass a Honda Civic on a steep uphill while towing the travel trailer.

So now I have a dually Dana 80 axle. If I break this one, I’ll try the Dana S110 next, since my rear axle weight does top 13,000 pounds at times

My understanding the current axle has a 11k rating...

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Don't forget the front spacers, new front wheels, and a bed. Might be cheaper to keep looking for a real dually.


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jerryleejr wrote:

MFL wrote:

A bit more info would help. What 3500 truck, brand/year, and what do you plan to tow with it?

Had a camp neighbor next to me with a converted 350 van, towing a little mini trailer.

[image]

Jerry

It’s a 4th Gen Ram 3500 CC and would be hauling 5-5500 in the bed and towing a small utility trailer. Most do the same with the 3500 DRW’s which why I’m looking at the conversion...


Please tell why you would need 19.5's? My 15 RAM DRW has factory 17's ands a LOT of tire capacity with having full RAWR of 9,750# on the rear tires with a 6k pin weight.


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