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Posted: 12/20/20 05:19pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

39 feet and it's only 14000 pounds, really? Mine is 40 feet and 19,000 pounds. 16,500 empty.


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Well there is a lot to be said about towing with a DRW, personally with our 32’ 5er running close to 13,000# and. 2,800# pin with the 1,400# of hitch, in bed tool box and DW and I we would have been within a couple hundred pounds of GVWR.
So much of it has to do with pin weight and what you carry in your truck.
To the many that I tow 16,000# with a SB SRW don’t know what they don’t know. They are likely well over weight, and as I have stated before The best feature of a 5er is it’s worst, that is their natural stability.


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Our current FW was originally towed with an F250 V10 short box, SRW. We traded in for a diesel dually long bed F350 and so glad we did. More stable, more power for towing up AND down grades. Our FW is 13k fully loaded too.


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I have pulled heavy fifth wheel campers and trailers for pleasure and work. The percentage of having a trailer hooked up to the truck has gone down to towing a trailer 3 or 4 times a month. I switched from DRW to a SRW one ton truck, the only time I miss the DRW is in high wind towing. I did worry about the safety factor of drive tire loss while towing, but got over that over the years.
IMO the convenience and cost reduction of the SRW (when not full time towing) make it the best choice for me.

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Posted: 12/20/20 08:46pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We tow a 16k Fiver loaded weight with a second ( double tow) 2.5 k trailer. Gross 26k with a SRW 3500 extrended cab long bed. diesel.
No issues of stability, overloading, braking.
If a SRW is rated to do the job with pin weight, why is DRW justified? Not.
More important to handling is wheelbase.. A longer trucks wheelbase is the stability, not the extra tires, the springs and axles are the same.
Get over the length and parking issues of a long bed. Save yourself the cost of slider hitches, have the room for cargo or an extra fuel tank. Our 80 gal in bed diesel tank extends range 900 mi. more.

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Posted: 12/21/20 05:09am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It comes down to how much you will use the truck not towing. My fiver weighs 16k fully loaded and I don’t need or want a dually. If the truck was a dedicated towing vehicle I still wouldn’t need a dually but I might buy one for the added stability. If you’re buying new you would be thrilled with any diesel 1 ton SRW.


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My dually tows 12K empty and we can fill the thing. I am very happy with the stability. As previously said on the pros, only cons are wider when empty, and two extra tires.


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Once again...is 14k loaded or empty weight.

You are at the border between SRW and DRW. If that's empty weight, you are in dually territory. If it's GVWR, a SRW of recent vintage is likely fine (check the ratings anyway).


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Posted: 12/21/20 07:37am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

As I read these post about towing a 16,000#+ 5er with a SRW, I think about GVWR and axle ratings. Prior to 2020 both GM and Ford highest GVWR for a SRW was 11,500#, making the approximate max payload about 3,700#. Ram on the other hand the 3500 SRW LB had a GVWR of 12,300# since 2013.
One needs to ask why didn’t GM and Ford up their SRW GVWR in 2014 to match Ram. Best guess is that GM and Ford didn’t have the frame strength to make those increases.

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I subscribe to the "you never have to much truck" idea. I got my first dually in 1985 and wouldn't dream of a SRW for towing. You get in a situation one time and all the reasons for not having DRW disappear. Once is all it takes. Its the rubber on the road that can save your life.

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