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Posted: 12/29/20 10:46am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

bucky wrote:

Here's my take on this very unsafe meaningless guessing game.
So a 2003 Ford F350 goes by. 100 yards across the center divider well treed at a closing rate of 130 mph? It's too far away to hear, so is it a 7.3 or a 6.0? Good luck with that.
How about a 2007 Dodge? They were still Dodges then. 5.9 or 6.7? Good luck with that one as well.
LBZ GMs were also a mixed bag. They had a pretty short run all things considered and overlapped model years as well.
May as well include color, lifted or not, 4WD or not, etc, etc.
Your wife is going to tell you something after you interrupt her reading, napping, and talking on the phone long enough.


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Bunch of cranky old turds on here! Let the guy do his report and then we can see if we can LEARN something from it.

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JIMNLIN wrote:

I have over 1.2 million miles pulling mostly GN trailers commercially with the same size trucks we rv with, and I'm always amazed how rv folks can tell by looking a truck is overloaded. I can't.
No way I or anyone could say a particular truck is overloaded without a front and rear axle scale ticket.


You can’t tell when a truck is sitting on its axle? Or when the front end rises up? Or the guy fighting sway b/c he’s not set up correctly?
I can. I guess I’m gifted.

You said your looking for overloaded 1/2 tons....not 1/2 tons sitting in the bump stops.
And incorrect set up can cause sway but doesn't mean the truck is overloaded.

Your biggest battle with looking for a overload condition will be in knowing if that 1500 GM was a std duty 6800 gvwr and 3800 rawr. Or was it the 1500 with a 8600 gvwr and 6000 rawr.

Same with the F150 that has 13 different GAWRs from 6200 up to 8200 with a 3800/4050/4550/4800 rawr.
All this while going down the highway.....IMO it can't be done.

I would stick with looking for a 1/2 ton sitting on the bump stops for a overload condition.


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JIMNLIN wrote:

vcv wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:

I have over 1.2 million miles pulling mostly GN trailers commercially with the same size trucks we rv with, and I'm always amazed how rv folks can tell by looking a truck is overloaded. I can't.
No way I or anyone could say a particular truck is overloaded without a front and rear axle scale ticket.


You can’t tell when a truck is sitting on its axle? Or when the front end rises up? Or the guy fighting sway b/c he’s not set up correctly?
I can. I guess I’m gifted.

You said your looking for overloaded 1/2 tons....not 1/2 tons sitting in the bump stops.
And incorrect set up can cause sway but doesn't mean the truck is overloaded.

Your biggest battle with looking for a overload condition will be in knowing if that 1500 GM was a std duty 6800 gvwr and 3800 rawr. Or was it the 1500 with a 8600 gvwr and 6000 rawr.

Same with the F150 that has 13 different GAWRs from 6200 up to 8200 with a 3800/4050/4550/4800 rawr.
All this while going down the highway.....IMO it can't be done.

I would stick with looking for a 1/2 ton sitting on the bump stops for a overload condition.


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To me, a more interesting data point would be how many FWs are being towed by a 1/2 ton, overloaded or lot. I'm sure the number will be small.


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2112 wrote:

To me, a more interesting data point would be how many FWs are being towed by a 1/2 ton, overloaded or lot. I'm sure the number will be small.


That would be a good data point. And it would be a good point of comparison since most 5rs are pulled with 3/4 ton. I’ll go ahead and add a button to start measuring this. I’m looking at them anyway. I’ve seen only 3 so far that I can remember.

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The only ‘zero’ I have on the list right now is a 7.3. Haven’t seen a single one towing anything yet. I’m surprised, b/c you still see some of those guys out on the road from time to time.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

bucky wrote:

Here's my take on this very unsafe meaningless guessing game.
So a 2003 Ford F350 goes by. 100 yards across the center divider well treed at a closing rate of 130 mph? It's too far away to hear, so is it a 7.3 or a 6.0? Good luck with that.
How about a 2007 Dodge? They were still Dodges then. 5.9 or 6.7? Good luck with that one as well.
LBZ GMs were also a mixed bag. They had a pretty short run all things considered and overlapped model years as well.
May as well include color, lifted or not, 4WD or not, etc, etc.
Your wife is going to tell you something after you interrupt her reading, napping, and talking on the phone long enough.


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Amen brother.

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vcv wrote:

2112 wrote:

To me, a more interesting data point would be how many FWs are being towed by a 1/2 ton, overloaded or lot. I'm sure the number will be small.


That would be a good data point. And it would be a good point of comparison since most 5rs are pulled with 3/4 ton. I’ll go ahead and add a button to start measuring this. I’m looking at them anyway. I’ve seen only 3 so far that I can remember.
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What does the title say??? “Just for fun”

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