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Oasisbob

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Posted: 01/17/21 03:30pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

An old timer told me regarding the RV industry "quality is only where you can see it, maybe". I almost pulled the trigger on a new trailer but lack of a conventional oven and overall build quality were disapointing so staywd with what we have. I know our current rig all too well.


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Besides the rush to crank more out, more of the MFGs are using lots of temp labor and new-hires, to replace the workers out because of Covid, or who can't work because of at-risk family. Automakers have reported the same issues. Parts suppliers too, combined with some imported components becoming unavailable, causing parts makers to have to substitute components.


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carringb wrote:

Besides the rush to crank more out, more of the MFGs are using lots of temp labor and new-hires, to replace the workers out because of Covid, or who can't work because of at-risk family. Automakers have reported the same issues. Parts suppliers too, combined with some imported components becoming unavailable, causing parts makers to have to substitute components.


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Kavoom wrote:

TT quality has declined quite a bit over the last year...

Well we have found a TT that checks all the boxes for both of us. It is only 27 feet four inches (My checked box). It has the private bedroom, and the full bunks, slide out and outdoor kitchen... https://www.dutchmen.com/product/aspen-trail

We have a smaller Aspen Trail we got three years ago and the quality was very good on the build. But...now...during Covid when they can't build them fast enough...apparently...quality is distinctly affected...and not in a good way...so we are going to wait. When you walk in and first thing you see is a toilet that is crooked in the bathroom...direct from the factory...and start looking around and seeing "little things" it makes you pause. We also looked at a few others, different brands and there is a difference between our three year old one and this years...crop. We are doing fine so far and don't NEED a new one so we will wait... I'm also thinking that once Covid is defeated, there are going to be a bunch of lightly used travel trailers on the market as people realize...Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time...


Interesting.
You first state that the Covid trailers have really poor quality, so you will not buy one..... Then state the there will be bargains later...... As these poor quality trailers hit the market.

IMO, a poor quality trailer is a bad deal at any price. YMMV



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I've always looked at RV'S as a kit, (some assembly required ). While the quality may be lacking the manufacturer's have done a decent job keeping them affordable for the masses. How many on the forum own a Provost conversion or Newell motor home? Or for that matter a 270G New Horizon.

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What compounds the issue is the market is flooded with unsuspecting new owners that don't realize that with trailer ownership they assume some level of responsibility with very basic mechanical skills.

Our local RV dealership is overwhelmed with new trailers waiting on warranty work and I'm betting some may be as simple as hand tightening a trap.

The consumer plays a role here.

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colliehauler wrote:

I've always looked at RV'S as a kit, (some assembly required ). While the quality may be lacking the manufacturer's have done a decent job keeping them affordable for the masses. How many on the forum own a Provost conversion or Newell motor home? Or for that matter a 270G New Horizon.


Correct. But if you have choices among light use (but still some use) used ones, you can inspect them yourself... And decide...

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Winnebago increased its sales by 39% in the third quarter of last year and building 39% more RVs means more new workers in the factory. None of the RV manufacturers have quality control systems in place and so more mistakes will make it to customers.

Drop in quality started in 2008 when half the RV manufacturers went out of business after the banksters looted the economy. The few that survived have very little competition and so very little incentive to care about what goes out the door.

Our first choice would have been a RV from Leisure Travel Vans in Canada but they have a 18 month or more backlog and so we bought a new Winnebago Navion in November and are in the process of fixing the RV's defects before taking it out on the road.

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The drop in quality is one of the reasons we sold our new trailer and replaced it with a 2005 model. It just felt cheap inside and honestly everytime we used it something needed fixing. Short of saying buying a new Genesis which was a little out of our price range as a cash only buyers we really wanted something older, heavier duty and built better when times were good.


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I am not holding my breath of quality any time soon. This is another near record year for sales. They make it; it sells.

The thinking is that once the travel industry gets back on its feet, people will be able to fly, cruse, motel and dine as before. Thus a lot of used TTs will hit the used market.

Perhaps this will happen. But I do not see how crimping new TT sales will do anything but force the TT makers to cut even more corners to meet the price of what will sell.


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