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We're in a dilema. We have a 2002 Fleetwood Terra 32S w 145,000 miles. It's running well but getting a little long in the tooth.

Don't like -
Road noise
Wind noise
Handling (wind, trucks, etc)
HVAC AC noise
HVAC Furnace noise
Shower sucks! Needs a ledge or a seat
Design is outdated
Can't pull a hill worth beans (but pass a lot of 80,000# trucks on the long pulls)

Do like -
Paid for
LOVE the floor plan
Cloth upholstery (warm in winter, cool in summer)
New tires
Newish brakes
Don't feel too bad driving in a cow pasture
Has all those little mods you get used to over time
More nimble than a 39 ft DP

So we're thinking about upgrading. I'm not fond of another V10 because it's pretty much right under me. Even with insulation matting inside the dog house there's still going to be noise (just plywood between me & tires). I've also added 2x2 rubber backed carpet squares as sound and (somewhat) thermal insulation. It helps. And the handling . . . sway bushings look ok but seriously? they're 19 years old. Probably shot. I could replace 'em but it's just another thing to fix. Also not a fan of the cheap handling fix. I do some serious cow pasturing.

Considering a DP probably in the 15 yo category. DW doesn't want the added length but with a rear engine, bigger tires and air bag suspension I'm thinking it will ride nicely. Maybe even have a conversation while driving! And while parked a 'nicer' moho might have central HVAC. Might even be able to hear the TV without waking the neighbors. Thoughts?

Diesel gets better mileage but higher cost/gal . . . and DP's are heavier. How does overall fuel cost compare to Ford's V10? I average ~7.5mpg with the trailer. It seems to follow me where ever I go . . .

DW wants hard surface floor that can be kept clean. Those are less common than full or mostly carpet, and always carpet under the slides. She calls carpet a dirt magnet. Ok, I don't vacuum after every trip.

That reminds me, I need to run the vacuum . . . .

I take maybe 20 - 30 solo trips / year. 14,000 miles last year. She didn't go 1 mile last year and maybe one trip in 2019. She wants to go, but always something in the way. We have two 18# terriers. They travel ok but the planets have to align just right for everyone to travel.

Is it worth it to have a nicer motorhome? Does anyone have the same noise gripes I have or the tracking dirt gripes my DW has? Do they run quietly down the road or do they just "look" quiet?

And brands . . . . we're seeing higher end Winnebagos, Forest River and 1 or 2 other "value" brands before getting to the Monacos, Newmars, etc. Those are pretty much out of our price range, even used. But need to know what to stay away from.

All thoughts are welcome.

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- bob & anita

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For starters I would stay away from Forest river. You can get a nice 32' Tiffin diesel used for a fair price or a used Winnebago Forza. Yes they are quieter. You can talk while going down the road, hear the radio and not have that 4500 rpm overdrive or downshift every time you try to go up a hill. We won't own another gasser. Not to mention the ride is much better and not like being in a moving truck.


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My MH weighs 38,000 lbs and the toad 5,600 lbs. I get 7.9 MPG towing the car. Drive about 60-62 MPH. It's not a rocket ship but we get there.


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Look at the and drive a class A with the new Ford Godzilla V8. It’s a all new ballgame in pep, nimbleness, noise and cockpit room.

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Not trying to ignite a gas vs diesel battle, a couple of things to consider.
If looking new, gas fords are now coming out with the new 7.3 v-8 more torque, makes its power at lower revs and is mated to a tranny with at least and 6 s speeds and 10 are coming if not already on the dealers lots.
Maybe drive on from a better line with the new drivetrains and decide for yourselves.

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If the wife/dogs never go I would get a nice B van myself.
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When we were looking to go from a TT to an MH we found out that a good used gas can ride as good as and have less road noise then a cheap used diesel.





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K Charles wrote:

When we were looking to go from a TT to an MH we found out that a good used gas can ride as good as and have less road noise then a cheap used diesel.


Yea Right. I have never owned a gas RV that rode as good as a diesel or was quieter and I’ve had more than most people.

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K Charles wrote:

When we were looking to go from a TT to an MH we found out that a good used gas can ride as good as and have less road noise then a cheap used diesel.
What were you looking at? gas and diesel?

The V8 does sound interesting but way too new to consider, both in price and unproven reliability.

Keep em coming

- bob

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I have never owned a gas RV since back in the 70s but have ridden in a few and no way they are better than a DP. I bought my 36ft Monaco DP 3 years ago actually going from a 40ft to the 36 and a year older. Has 8.3 Cummins, and 6spd Allison trans. I just towed my race car to West Palm Beach 1400mi round trip and got 9mpg over New Years running the generator most of the way. Last year on same trip I got 9.25 not running the generator. Towing the Smart car on the dolly it gets about the same MPG. I bought this Monaco for $35,000.

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