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Posted: 01/28/21 07:15pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Where does the electricity come from to charge the "green" car? Here





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rlw999 wrote:

If this actually happens, you probably won't want a gas or diesel RV anyway since you won't be able to find a gas station -- gas stations are barely profitable now, and are on the decline in the USA.

But that article is incomplete, it omitted one key part of the announcement which means that this won't actually affect (most) RV's:

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The move toward ending tailpipe emissions will affect GM’s passenger cars and light-duty trucks — SUVs such as the Yukon, as well as vans and minivans and some pickup trucks, such as the Silverado, a company spokeswoman said.

But its heavy-duty vehicles — box trucks, tractor trailers, utility trucks and some heavy pickup trucks — will continue to run on gasoline, the company said.


And they left some wiggle room:

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GM’s statement also left some wiggle room in continuing internal-combustion engines, critics noted. The company did not rule out using carbon offsets or credits “if absolutely necessary” to reach its goal of eliminating tailpipe emissions. That means GM could invest in programs that remove carbon dioxide from the air, such as tree planting, and still sell some gasoline-powered vehicles.


Yah for sure. Heavy vehicle applications for diesel will be around for decades. But I think gas prices will be under pressure in 10 or 15 years. Oil companies are going to have to keep prices cheap if they want to keep customers. Even oil changes are going to have to get cheaper...or maybe go to 30,000 or 40,000 km oil change intervals.

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Posted: 01/28/21 07:27pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A hydrogen fuel cell could provide the electricity for these HD vehicles.

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K Charles wrote:

Where does the electricity come from to charge the "green" car? Here


Nope. But it makes for a great headline. [emoticon]. LOL.

I can see this kind of equipment being used for emergency evacuation routes etc. It’s a great idea.

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I can't wait to see the plans to convert the Boeing B-52 to electric engines. [emoticon]

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At some point electric vehicles will be the majority, because at some point they will become more desirable simply because they work better than their gas or diesel ancestors. For some folks that time has already come. It's not there for me yet, but my next car just might be electric if I don't have to pay a $10-15K premium like one does now.

Battery power is gradually displacing the internal combustion engine all around. A small case in point- a couple of years ago I bought a house after living in a condo for several years. I didn't own any power lawn equipment so I had to start from scratch. After much research and agonizing, I bought all battery powered equipment- mower, string trimmer, hedge trimmer and backpack blower. And it all works great for my yard. Would it work for commercial use? Not a chance. But it works for me, and it's really nice not having to keep four small gas engines running, and I don't miss keeping a can full of gas and mixing 2 stroke fuel. But I digress. When electric vehicles become superior to ICE powered vehicles in every way- cost, range, reliability, performance and convenience, ICE vehicles will slowly disappear. It will happen, as certainly as the ICE made the horse obsolete.

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gbopp wrote:

I can't wait to see the plans to convert the Boeing B-52 to electric engines. [emoticon]


General Motors owns Boeing?

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The funny thing about all of this is GM is late to the party. They can reach there goal but they are already playing catch up.
I imagine the GM people have driven a Tesla and come to the realization the ICE is done. Tesla has changed the game. The big boys are scrambling to exit the ICE business and develop there own EV plans.
I've said it in a few other threads but I'll say it again. Personally drive a Tesla if you get a chance and you'll understand the revolution is here. The game has changed. The technology is jaw dropping. Drive a Tesla and you will immediate realize/understand the ICE is obsolete.
It's no longer if , or how, or can we. The only question is when and how soon!
I imagine cowboys, stage coach drivers and those who rode horses had the same reaction to the model T as the current naysayers have to the Tesla.


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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Build a 1 ton, crew cab, 8' bed hybrid electric with with small turbine engine and I will buy one right now. I know I know battery technology is going to improve, I've heard it before.


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