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EVs, ICE, whatever, they are all pretty much drive and forget. Haven't had any major engine work since....I think is was 30yrs ago I had a timing gear failure on a 1986 S-15. Sure, there are exceptions but I've also heard of failures with EV drivetrains. In either case they are very rare unless you do something stupid.
I had an '85 S10 V-6. 3 transmissions and 1 engine replaced before 80,000 miles.


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EV's will dominate simply because they are way more efficient with very few moving parts vs. the ICE.
Sure they will break down, and have issues but they are nothing like the ICE.
Drive a Tesla you will be amazingly awaken.
This whole EV thing is not something futuristic its happening now.
My Wal Mart now has charging stations. My library has charging stations.
Getting recharged will be something you do while shopping. If your taking a longer trip you will stop at a coffee shop he offers recharging.
While there is certainly infrastructure to be sorted out it's a mindset change at this point vs. a technology challenge


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SPRey wrote:

What if--

What if all vehicles are electric (requiring the power grid to be charged) and all ICE cars outlawed.
What if all gas/diesel fuels are also outlawed (Paris Accord/Green New Deal/Great Reset Initiative/Davos 2021).
What if our electronic infrastructure is disrupted by the sun (solar storm) or from an attack from an enemy (China/Russia/North Korea/Iran)?



AFAIK, ICE may be restricted in some areas, not outlawed in general.
And not sure if you have seen it, but if the internet is down in a area, it is hard to buy fuel. And if no electricity, most pumps don't work.


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valhalla360 wrote:

EVs, ICE, whatever, they are all pretty much drive and forget. Haven't had any major engine work since....I think is was 30yrs ago I had a timing gear failure on a 1986 S-15. Sure, there are exceptions but I've also heard of failures with EV drivetrains. In either case they are very rare unless you do something stupid.
I had an '85 S10 V-6. 3 transmissions and 1 engine replaced before 80,000 miles.


I had a '88 5-speed manual. Wife was primary driver, but 4 drivers learned manual trans on that truck. 17 years, 200,000+ miles. Replaced clutch once, brakes and fuel pump 3 times. Bet my experience is as close to normal as yours.

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European countries are into no-tailpipe goals some with more aggressive timelines than the others.

Seems everyone sees the future except the troglodytes among us.

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time2roll wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

EVs, ICE, whatever, they are all pretty much drive and forget. Haven't had any major engine work since....I think is was 30yrs ago I had a timing gear failure on a 1986 S-15. Sure, there are exceptions but I've also heard of failures with EV drivetrains. In either case they are very rare unless you do something stupid.
I had an '85 S10 V-6. 3 transmissions and 1 engine replaced before 80,000 miles.


obviously operator abuse.
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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

European countries are into no-tailpipe goals some with more aggressive timelines than the others.

Seems everyone sees the future except the troglodytes among us.
Yeah, but there's a whooooooole bunch of 'em. LOL


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Lantley wrote:

EV's will dominate simply because they are way more efficient with very few moving parts vs. the ICE.
Sure they will break down, and have issues but they are nothing like the ICE.
Drive a Tesla you will be amazingly awaken.
This whole EV thing is not something futuristic its happening now.
My Wal Mart now has charging stations. My library has charging stations.
Getting recharged will be something you do while shopping. If your taking a longer trip you will stop at a coffee shop he offers recharging.
While there is certainly infrastructure to be sorted out it's a mindset change at this point vs. a technology challenge


x2. I also think it's a testosterone mindset for some. Electric cars just aren't manly enough.

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No more rolling coal? So not going to miss that.

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fj12ryder wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

European countries are into no-tailpipe goals some with more aggressive timelines than the others.

Seems everyone sees the future except the troglodytes among us.
Yeah, but there's a whooooooole bunch of 'em. LOL


Darwin is not fast enough, lol.[emoticon]

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goducks10 wrote:

Lantley wrote:

EV's will dominate simply because they are way more efficient with very few moving parts vs. the ICE.
Sure they will break down, and have issues but they are nothing like the ICE.
Drive a Tesla you will be amazingly awaken.
This whole EV thing is not something futuristic its happening now.
My Wal Mart now has charging stations. My library has charging stations.
Getting recharged will be something you do while shopping. If your taking a longer trip you will stop at a coffee shop he offers recharging.
While there is certainly infrastructure to be sorted out it's a mindset change at this point vs. a technology challenge


x2. I also think it's a testosterone mindset for some. Electric cars just aren't manly enough.


Cybertruck is beefier than a GM or a Ford.

And that's why Elon is putting on option for a broom-broom when you accelerate if that's not good enough.[emoticon]

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