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Posted: 02/04/21 06:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

That was a transition year for the receiver on 1500HD's

If yours looks like this, change it a more traditional torque tube receiver that does NOT depend on the bumper as part of the force vector system. Any of the Class V with traditional torque tube to gusset side plates would be better

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Looks similar. Not the same tabs above the receiver but it is bolted to bumper sub I assume for torque force support.

I’ll find some options and share back here. Thanks again!!

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wjsweet wrote:

Totally agree Grit dog. I came to same conclusion why would it have a class 3 factory. I know the 1500hd is a weird truck, but...

That’s why I came here to ask!


Did you check the payload to make sure you aren't overloading the truck? Could they have put the lower class hitch on because that would handle anything the truck is rated for?


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"What are you towing that weighs 8000# but only has a tongue weight of 900#?"

10% is a good pin weight % for a tow behind.


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valhalla360 wrote:


Did you check the payload to make sure you aren't overloading the truck? Could they have put the lower class hitch on because that would handle anything the truck is rated for?


Maybe you could check if you're curious.
I'll leave this here...

"May 2002. The 1500HD is 8600 GVWR, just like the 2500 and shares part of the frame. The 2500HD is 9200 GVWR,"

And if I recall correctly, they got the 9.5" 14 bolt semi floater rear axle. Not the biggest tool in the shed, but enough that it ran well under all the 3/4 ton GMs for about 2 decades. Heck my '86 K20 "camper special" 8600 gvw has a 14 bolt s f axle. From how I bought it, it looks like it carried a TC for a while as well. And not a little one. Little one wouldn't have dented the bed floor, like our Arctic Fox did. With a 4" lift on it.
Original axle, doesn't appear to ever have been rebuilt, changed the fluid, it looked great.


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BenK wrote:

That was a transition year for the receiver on 1500HD's

If yours looks like this, change it a more traditional torque tube receiver that does NOT depend on the bumper as part of the force vector system. Any of the Class V with traditional torque tube to gusset side plates would be better


True statement.
And a cheap upgrade. Although for the OP's purpose, a Class IV is sufficiently rated and can be had for about $150. Class V for extra capacity, under $250.

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Alright. Got the Curt XD ordered!

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While I agree that one should be able to tow a trailer of any size and sort with out bars........with this said......
I've towed my now gone 26' 6500-7000 lbs trailer with out, just a WD and a dual cam behind two gm rigs with an 8600 ext cab 8' bed, and 9200 gvwr CC with an 8' bed. No bars vs WD bars only, side to side rocking with side winds of the trailer was greater with no bars, and the dual cam had less rocking that the WD only. I made sure I was balanced, nose ever so slightly down on trailer, usually 12-14% HW. While I had no issues towing with out, I will say slightly nicer with bars. But not a major deal breaker!
ALL my other trailers I tow with out bars. Again, no issues except when loaded incorrectly with weight balance etc.
Yes your 1500HD is a sheep in wolves clothing! A very good truck! If one was available today, I would buy one in a heartbeat!
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wjsweet wrote:

Have a 2006 Chevy Silverado 1500HD. Came with a class III 600lb tongue weight hitch. Seems to be the weak point.

The OEM hitch on that era of GM truck was a total piece of junk. Do a search on this site and you'll find all kinds of conversations that happened in the past about these receivers and the multiple weak points.

A good Class IV/V Receiver like this one is what you need on that truck. It's true you don't always need a WD hitch, however I've always found with heavier tongue weights using WD makes the connection feel much more solid and you get less bounce in the rear suspension. The kicker is always going over bridge joints you can get into a porpoising condition without a WD hitch.

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* This post was edited 02/12/21 03:25pm by LIKE2BUILD *


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Grit dog wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:


Did you check the payload to make sure you aren't overloading the truck? Could they have put the lower class hitch on because that would handle anything the truck is rated for?


Maybe you could check if you're curious.
I'll leave this here...

"May 2002. The 1500HD is 8600 GVWR, just like the 2500 and shares part of the frame. The 2500HD is 9200 GVWR,"

And if I recall correctly, they got the 9.5" 14 bolt semi floater rear axle. Not the biggest tool in the shed, but enough that it ran well under all the 3/4 ton GMs for about 2 decades. Heck my '86 K20 "camper special" 8600 gvw has a 14 bolt s f axle. From how I bought it, it looks like it carried a TC for a while as well. And not a little one. Little one wouldn't have dented the bed floor, like our Arctic Fox did. With a 4" lift on it.
Original axle, doesn't appear to ever have been rebuilt, changed the fluid, it looked great.

The 6.0 gas 2500 HD got the 10.5 in full floater, but that was one of the other differences between the 1500HD and 2500HD. The Duramax and 8.1 got the 11.5 in. The 9.5 in is a good unit. Have not really heard of anyone having issues with them.


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