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Is it just me, or has it gotten political in here? (he asks, fanning himself vigorously)

The weird thing is that like it or not, the markets are moving (and always have been) and you can either join the bandwagon or get dragged along, kicking and screaming all you want. But whichever, you, too, are going in that direction. What that direction is, of course, is up to you to figure out.

From where I sit, it looks like battery technology is making great strides, and things are looking solar and wind. No artificial upward pressure is needed to send oil prices upward, the markets are capable of that by themselves, as easy oil becomes more scarce and the cost of production rises. But please feel free to choose your own path and celebrate/bemoan as you wish.





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Fox Business? Enough said....[emoticon]


LOL. FOX "news" isn't news per say. They have zero investigative staff members. They are all cut and paste. I know first hand. Most of their editorial has to be scrutinized by lawyers before going on air so they are not sued on a daily basis. The writers have to say "You can't say that. It's not true. We will be sued." They then have to rewrite the article to the satisfaction of lawyers. LOL.

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What part of you are all wrong, and right at the same time do some of you not understand. Rhagfo's comments re different types of power types are very true. We think initially something is good, then a few years decades later, that type of power source, while and excellent source of power, the after damage is colossal. Here in the NW, the many dams on the Columbia have wiped out too many salmon runs to count! not too mention what it is doing to the local orca pods. Yet it is cheap made electricity!
At the end, one needs to find a balance between waste and procuction, and making sure mother earth is not damaged too.

In the meant time, try to keep this from going personal......or it will not last the day.

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I'm going to weigh in on solar. I have an all-electric, 3,000 square foot home. I have no electric bill. I have a plug-in Prius. I will soon have an electric car, replacing the Prius. I have not paid for electricity in over 8 years. PG&E actually owes me money (which I do not care about). I have an 8.2K solar system on my roof. With net metering and grid connectivity, I do not worry about anything. Power outage? I just start my Honda generator I have for camping. My initial investment was $15,000. My return on investment (ROI) was just over 4 years (50 months). I will have saved over $100,000 in electric costs in 25 years (plus any increases of PG&E Costs). My system will last in excess of 40 years. All parts are warrantied for 25 years. Panasonic, the panel manufacture, has been around since 1918, so I do not see them disappearing anytime soon. Enphase, the micro-inverter manufacture, is a worldwide Fortune 500 corporation. There is no maintenance per se. I hook my RV brush to a hose. Climb up my extension ladder and brush off the dust and dirt twice a year. It takes less than 10 minutes. I can monitor each panel separately through my phone or computers. If I ever needed to replace a panel or micro-inverter, it requires removing 4 nuts and unplugging the panel. Yes....it is that simple. 95% of solar panels are recyclable, more than a car.
Solar is here to stay. Electric cars will become the norm. It may take some time, but, it will happen. Somewhere along the line, a newer source of energy will replace solar, hydro, wind, fossil fuels, geo thermal, ect. My guess is hydrogen.

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shelbyfv wrote:

Fox Business? Enough said....[emoticon]


LOL. FOX "news" isn't news per say. They have zero investigative staff members. They are all cut and paste. I know first hand. Most of their editorial has to be scrutinized by lawyers before going on air so they are not sued on a daily basis. The writers have to say "You can't say that. It's not true. We will be sued." They then have to rewrite the article to the satisfaction of lawyers. LOL.
Yep, most of what I read about the new $2.7 billion lawsuit indicates it has a good chance of success. I expect Fox is wishing they'd paid more attention to their lawyers, had better lawyers or enough common sense to know you can't just make **** up and get away with it forever.





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Does everything have to be political now? I'm about ready to ditch this forum there's so much of it. This was a decent RV forum! Now it's just another way to promote your political leanings.


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Ohio has already started on extra charges. $100 extra for license plates for hybrid cars and $200 for electric vehicles. The plates for my Camry hybrid cost more than my dually, class c and other car-combined. [emoticon] [emoticon]


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Ohio has already started on extra charges. $100 extra for license plates for hybrid cars and $200 for electric vehicles. The plates for my Camry hybrid cost more than my dually, class c and other car-combined. [emoticon] [emoticon]


Be it good or bad, both IMHO
At least here in Wa St, EV and log rigs do not pay fuel tax on fuels used to go down the road. So those folks do not pay into funds for repairs. ASSUMING that is how your jurisdiction like mine gets road repair maintenance funds. The extra being paid to register your EV, should and would be expected by me any how, so I'm contributing my share to said projects.
I realize some may not agree with this, reality is, we all need to pay for this in some way shape or form. The big question becomes how!

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jdc1 wrote:

I'm going to weigh in on solar. I have an all-electric, 3,000 square foot home. I have no electric bill. I have a plug-in Prius. I will soon have an electric car, replacing the Prius. I have not paid for electricity in over 8 years. PG&E actually owes me money (which I do not care about). I have an 8.2K solar system on my roof. With net metering and grid connectivity, I do not worry about anything.


Good for you and a good thing you live in an area that gets @ 270 days of sunshine per year. It may work well in your case, but maybe not so much for someone who lives in Duluth MN or Buffalo NY, especially where return on investment is concerned.

Biden's energy policy is a typical government one size fits all bovine excrement plan, which he intends to force down your throat to appease his base and handlers, enjoy it.

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