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Posted: 02/08/21 10:22am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Would a dingy that weighs 2600lbs. need a supplemental braking system for Class A towing, with a 5000lb. rating. I know it would be safer, but is there a minimum weight that is acceptable?

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Each state has it’s own rules. Some use actual weight limits, some use a %. Of the towing vehicle. Some require break away switch no matter weight. Considering you are risking other peoples lives in a breakaway situation, think about the possible consequences of saving a few dollars.

Also, when in an emergency stopping situation, I have never heard any complaints about having extra braking available it is your choice but know that the laws vary and your insurance may not cover you if you are in violation of a state law.

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wjschill wrote:

Would a dingy that weighs 2600lbs. need a supplemental braking system for Class A towing, with a 5000lb. rating. I know it would be safer, but is there a minimum weight that is acceptable?

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something to check before you decide. the brakes on your MH may be engineered for the gross vehicle weight rating of the MH only. check with the chassis mfg. if the MH is close to its GVWR (which it probably is) then I would absolutely add an aux braking system. Me? I'd add it anyway cuz you never know when that next panic stop is gonna happen.


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Posted: 02/08/21 12:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Do not believe the companies that manufacture auxiliary braking devices. Check with your state police. Many states do not have requirements for a towed motor vehicle which are not considered trailers.
Verify in your rig's owners manual towing capacity. Do not go by what is stamped on hitch or ball mount.


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In NYS any trailer rated 2,000 lbs needs to have brakes (the last time I checked the NTDIT web site)

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heck, why worry about safety when you can save a couple hundred bucks.
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heck, why worry about safety when you can save a couple hundred bucks.
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Thank you.

Fact is, the brakes on your MH are designed to stop the GVWR of the MH, plus a reserve for safety. If your GCVW, with the car hooked up is over the GVWR, you are riding in that safety reserve.
When faced with this question I want to ask "Would you be willing to make your kids ride on your front bumper, to be the first 1 to any accident?" Somebodies kids are always in front of you.

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I also believe that you should always have a break away system installed. weight limits/ratings don't enter into that.
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Just a simple question.....

Thanks George..

Take a break, Bumpy

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The issue is that the question is a bit more complex then one might think, and comes up here often.

There are some State laws that are very clear about towing trailers based on the weight of the trailer For example one site I checked says that for Texas you are supposed to have breaks if your trailer is over 4,500# - what's not called out specifically is when does a towed vehicle qualify (if at all) as a trailer. This is where it gets a bit crazy so I am not going to debate that aspect. But for me I'd say anything I tow behind my motorhome is a trailer (for me). So when I had my ATV trailer I had breaks, chains and breakaway system. When I pull my boat, same thing. For for my Jeep I'd want those same features, again this is for me - as the laws can be interpreted different.

Your question won't generate a specific yes or no answer regarding at what weight should you have brakes based on the motorhome hitch or capacity. Yep more grey area, isn't this fun? [emoticon] Some of the various State rules get into your ability to stop at a certain distance. Again your question would seem like a simple answer should be available, but I've never found it. My Winnebago owners manual doesn't address it either.

To be honest it's going to come down to your own judgement, some basic understanding of your State laws and risk potential. You could talk to the Texas Highway Patrol and they might help you, or you might get more run around. I really wish there was one clean cut answer to give you. If it helps, and you want some good material to put you to sleep here is the RVIA Trailer Brake Requirements by State.


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