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jasenj1

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The wife and I are deep into the shopping phase.
We like the 22'-ish class and settled on the micro Minnie 2108DS as a top contender. I know it's a crowded market segment, but you have to choose something as a reference.

Things we like:
  • Narrow - easier to tow for newbs
  • Dinette & couch
  • Reputable brand (but there are so many)
  • Separate fridge & freezer


Recently we saw some videos for the Cougar 22MLS. This is a significantly different trailer.
  • 8' wide
  • Fixed king bed
  • Large slide
  • Larger capacities all around


Based on some quick price checking, the Cougar is about $10k more than the Minnie, too. Not insignificant.

Anyone care to comment on these two?

Edit: I see my links to the product sites got removed.

* This post was edited 02/18/21 03:23am by jasenj1 *

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No experience with the Cougar. I’m very pleased with my Winnie TT. Not sure at all that the difference between a 7 foot wide TT and an 8 footer makes much difference when towing. Might with interior room however. My Winnie is 7.5 feet wide. No longer built. There are other good brands but Winnebago and Airstream are the known words to the general public. Are you planning to dry camp/boondock? If not, fresh and waste water tank sizes don’t make much difference.


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I can't comment on the Minnie as I have no experience with them. I can say that the Cougar 22RBS that we have has had no major issues and only a few very minor issues. Like all trailers, there are shortcuts taken to reduce weight like thin shelving which I beef up with 1/4" plywood on top and braces underneath. That makes it so canned goods do not end up on the next shelf down if a road gets a little rough. I was impressed with the chassis structure and suspension as it is about 7200 pounds mgvw and has two 4400 pound axles under it and a set of tires capable of almost 10 k pounds.
I will note that this unit was built at the end of October 2019 so it was pre covid. There were many issues with all trailers right after production resumed and I cannot verify that things are back to normal. If they are, quality should be back up but it must be noted that serial number 42 could be a fantastic trailer and serial number 43 could be a real dog on just about any trailer line.
Also realize that after negotiations the difference will not be as much as you suspect.
Whichever you choose, happy camping and be safe!


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Umm... Those 2 trailers are miles apart in comparison if I google those models..

The Cougar is way more trailer than the Minnie.. Unless I totally missed something...

Cougar is #5700 Dry.. Minnie is some #4000 dry.

I'm sure I'm missing something, but the prices seem a bit high too...

Heck, I got my 19 Rockwood 2511S for $26k. Here is it's floor plan..
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It's GVWR is #7000 and it's dry weight was in the #5500 range if I recall..

It's 26' overall length from bumper to hitch.. 8' wide and 11' tall..

I paid $26k for it brand new back in 19.. Guess prices have gone up a bit now..

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It's 26' overall length from bumper to hitch.. 8' wide and 11' tall..

The 22MLS is also 26' overall. Not sure why it's labeled a "22". The layout looks very similar to yours - minus the extra wardrobe slide.

And I realize the two trailers are very different. That's kind of the point of the comparison. One is lighter, narrower, smaller overall. The other is bigger all around. From a build quality perspective, I don't know if one is better than the other.

The Cougar has the inCommand system which seems like a neat feature. Remote monitoring & control of the trailer sounds very useful.

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The poor quality of the Cougar will make you hate going anywhere in it.

have never heard anyone complain about Winnebago overall quality.

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A little note on lengths: as of 1/1/21 trailer lengths are overall lengths and not imaginary box lengths. The RVIA has finally adopted that standard. If they would get rid of manufacturers advertising dry weights and make them show gvwr and ccc only it would be even better.

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It's 26' overall length from bumper to hitch.. 8' wide and 11' tall..

The 22MLS is also 26' overall. Not sure why it's labeled a "22". The layout looks very similar to yours - minus the extra wardrobe slide.


Most makers number their units by the flat floor length. The new standard is true length in the specs.


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QCMan wrote:

A little note on lengths: as of 1/1/21 trailer lengths are overall lengths and not imaginary box lengths. The RVIA has finally adopted that standard. If they would get rid of manufacturers advertising dry weights and make them show gvwr and ccc only it would be even better.


Wonderful. Does this mean they’re going to start using those lengths for the model names?

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“Does this mean they’re going to start using those lengths for the model names?”

I’m guessing....NOPE!

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