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Ed_Gee wrote:

Given the additional info the OP has posted, it sounds like everyone is making a mountain out of a mole hill. The lady merely indicated she would wishes she didn't have to see it when upstairs .... nothing else, apparently. I live in an exact same situation as the OP is looking at... a neighborhood in which the developer created CC&Rs that everyone had to sign off on when buying. Fortunately, no HOA was ever created.... and thus, many people in the neighborhood have violated those CC&Rs ... boats, RVs, ham radio antennas, even the color of the houses. There is no enforcement, and never will be. If an individual in the neighborhood wants to create a fuss over something, he would have to hire a lawyer ... and no guarantees there, too. I suspect if the OP is nice to his neighbor across the street she'll get used to it.


This isn't the real world here on rvnet though. Half the people responding probably are their neighborhood Kravitz's. Others care far too much what their neighbors think and the OP hasn't even determined if the CC&Rs are enforceable or even in effect any longer.

And then there's the "better than you" crowd here. "Well I live in the country on acreage....etc etc"
But that doesn't make the OP wrong for wanting to be in a subdivision....for whatever reason.

Until you know there's an issue, don't make it an issue...
Once you've verified, then take action. Either way.


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Hello, I am the original poster: My profile says Louisiana, but we have recently moved to New Mexico. I spoke with the city code enforcement today. They said that they do not enforce CC&Rs and would not be involved as long as there is no city code being violated. After speaking with the code enforcement division, and the city planner, there is no CITY code I would be violating at this particular residence, parking the dutchstar the way I have indicated, which is, on the concrete pad that is to the left of the house along the side of the property and behind the gate. The 1973 CC&R document has not been updated since 1975 and indicates that it lasts 20 years. In which at that time "Auto renews" for 10 year successions unless there is a vote by the land owners to discontinue the CC&Rs or a portion of it. So, by that definition, the CC&R's are still valid, but there is no forum held to discuss the continuance or discontinuance of the rules or any part of the rules. Because of that, I think it might be more difficult to enforce in court. You can't change the rules because there is no forum held to update/change/delete any of the rules, so they just kinda go on and on. I have an appointment to speak with a local attorney regarding this subject, so I will try to report back. In the meantime, I will continue to be nice to the lady and maybe bring her some Louisiana Boudin, and maybe she will forget about it all! [emoticon]

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reads to me like the CC&Rs are in effect and will be until a majority of the land owners vote to eliminate/modify them.
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If it's a covenant recorded with the title she can file a suit against you. Question will be who has deeper pockets to litigate it?


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Mike134 wrote:

If it's a covenant recorded with the title she can file a suit against you. Question will be who has deeper pockets to litigate it?


Oh my ____!
OR, maybe, just maybe, the worst possible scenario is that the OP "might" have to store his RV off-site, IF ANY of this doom n gloom HOA apocalypse stuff actually comes to fruition!

You all crack me up. I would hate going through life as pessimistic and scared of what "might" happen, regardless of how remote the probability, as some folks do!

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Some years ago, a sportsman's club I am a director of lost the lease on our club property after the death of the owner. We found another piece of property and invested significant time and money in securing an option to buy, contingent on receiving a required zoning variance. We anticipated no issues with the zoning.

Someone who had previously tried to buy the property was pissed that we got the deal done. He organized several "neighbors", all of whom lived more than a mile away from the property to object to our variance. Their objections were ridiculous and I prepared a presentation showing them to be baseless. Our attorney said he had no doubt we would prevail and get the variance. However, he also said that these people would not go away. He expected we would forever be dealing with baseless complaints and possibly frivolous lawsuits.

We cut a deal and found another location.


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bukhrn wrote:

Have you tried to contact the 5 other houses with RV's, boat, etc, and asked them how they get away with it and what if any problems have they had, or is it just your neighbor with an attitude.

Good question. Yes, I have spoken with a few of them. They said that no one has ever complained. However, I am the one that lives directly across the street from the lady that says she doesn't want to look at my RV even if it is behind the fence.

Its usualy lonely unhappy people jelly o others lifestyle who try to make others miserable too.

You should invite her over and show her how nice your MH is inside and what rv life is about.
Giving her a box of chocolates would be good idea too,make friends not enemies.

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Suggest you confirm that the restrictions are CCR's and not deed restrictions...just for grins. Someone will have to sue you to enforce the "rules" and deed restrictions just means it's a different someone.

CCR's don't age out unless there are sunset provisions in them or there is a statutory provision. IDK what the law is in NM, but would guess the CCR's are still valid. What that does is give your fellow owners a cause of action against you...it's not an instant summary judgment issue (what is "storage" anyway?) but it let's them walk in and have count 1 in their complaint.

Consult with the local attorney, but it still sounds like a headache that one doesn't need, even if in practical terms, the likelihood of suit is pretty low.


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free radical wrote:


Its usualy lonely unhappy people jelly o others lifestyle who try to make others miserable too.

You should invite her over and show her how nice your MH is inside and what rv life is about.
Giving her a box of chocolates would be good idea too,make friends

city build bridge around house


Or a box of ExLax disguised as chocolates!

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kmb1966 wrote:

In the meantime, I will continue to be nice to the lady and maybe bring her some Louisiana Boudin, and maybe she will forget about it all! [emoticon]
A muffaletta from Pronia`s Deli would work


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