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For those of you that want to pull a trailer with your EV, Some trailer maker will outfit a toyhauler type trailer with a generator for when you are camping, that will also have an umbilical to charge the truck while going down the road, And those small engines, and industrial units don't have to meet all the enviro-whacko rules that auto's and light trucks do, so you will likely see the pollution actually get worse in some cases, although they will be a small percentage of the total number of vehicles out there, and you can still pat yourself on the back for saving the world.


Although an intriguing idea, all EV’s are designed to not function when plugged in. That prevents people from driving away while hooked up to a charging station. It would also have to be a substantial generator.

EV’s have gauges indicating charge state. They won’t need to be charged while driving anymore than an ICE needs a connection to a tanker while going down the road.

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wanderingaimlessly wrote:

For those of you that want to pull a trailer with your EV, Some trailer maker will outfit a toyhauler type trailer with a generator for when you are camping, that will also have an umbilical to charge the truck while going down the road, And those small engines, and industrial units don't have to meet all the enviro-whacko rules that auto's and light trucks do, so you will likely see the pollution actually get worse in some cases, although they will be a small percentage of the total number of vehicles out there, and you can still pat yourself on the back for saving the world.


Although an intriguing idea, all EV’s are designed to not function when plugged in. That prevents people from driving away while hooked up to a charging station. It would also have to be a substantial generator.

EV’s have gauges indicating charge state. They won’t need to be charged while driving anymore than an ICE needs a connection to a tanker while going down the road.


Didn't say it would be capable of 100 % of needs when in use. But an enterprising person WILL no doubt find a way to circumvent your safety cutouts, and extend his daily range by maybe 25-50%.
And the ICE vehicle doesn't NEED a tanker, refueling takes only a few minutes every six hours or so, until they match that, the EV is at a disadvantage that some people will seek to overcome by a means such as this.

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wanderingaimlessly wrote:

For those of you that want to pull a trailer with your EV, Some trailer maker will outfit a toyhauler type trailer with a generator for when you are camping, that will also have an umbilical to charge the truck while going down the road, And those small engines, and industrial units don't have to meet all the enviro-whacko rules that auto's and light trucks do, so you will likely see the pollution actually get worse in some cases, although they will be a small percentage of the total number of vehicles out there, and you can still pat yourself on the back for saving the world.


Although an intriguing idea, all EV’s are designed to not function when plugged in. That prevents people from driving away while hooked up to a charging station. It would also have to be a substantial generator.

EV’s have gauges indicating charge state. They won’t need to be charged while driving anymore than an ICE needs a connection to a tanker while going down the road.


Didn't say it would be capable of 100 % of needs when in use. But an enterprising person WILL no doubt find a way to circumvent your safety cutouts, and extend his daily range by maybe 25-50%.
And the ICE vehicle doesn't NEED a tanker, refueling takes only a few minutes every six hours or so, until they match that, the EV is at a disadvantage that some people will seek to overcome by a means such as this.


Yah I get that. But I think they may have a challenge breaking both the manufacturers code and the charging standards code. Hackers could do it, but most back yard mechanics are probably not up to the challenge. As well, onboard chargers are usually limited to 8 to 11.5 KW.

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Although an intriguing idea, all EV’s are designed to not function when plugged in. That prevents people from driving away while hooked up to a charging station. It would also have to be a substantial generator.



Yah I get that. But I think they may have a challenge breaking both the manufacturers code and the charging standards code. Hackers could do it, but most back yard mechanics are probably not up to the challenge. As well, onboard chargers are usually limited to 8 to 11.5 KW.

Cheers.


8-11 kw,,,,, have not even tried the math but, since youre a proponent of these units and do seem to like the tech side of it,,,,,
If someone had a 3000 watt genny feeding the tesla truck, (or even a 3) while it was being driven, how much in theory, would it extend the range?
This is likely to become a real business in time.

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Although an intriguing idea, all EV’s are designed to not function when plugged in. That prevents people from driving away while hooked up to a charging station. It would also have to be a substantial generator.



Yah I get that. But I think they may have a challenge breaking both the manufacturers code and the charging standards code. Hackers could do it, but most back yard mechanics are probably not up to the challenge. As well, onboard chargers are usually limited to 8 to 11.5 KW.

Cheers.


8-11 kw,,,,, have not even tried the math but, since youre a proponent of these units and do seem to like the tech side of it,,,,,
If someone had a 3000 watt genny feeding the tesla truck, (or even a 3) while it was being driven, how much in theory, would it extend the range?
This is likely to become a real business in time.


No idea. But it has a lot to do with wether you are going up or down hill, speed, etc. I would think an Onan quiet diesel, 12 kw unit would be somewhat effective. Really don’t know. I know the lifetime average for our old leaf was 6.4 km from 1 KWH. I would think a truck pulling a trailer would be a lot less but don’t know how much. Heck. We just drive em. [emoticon].

The Cybertruck trimotor is supposed to have 500 miles of range (800 kilometers). I think it would be easier to just make a bigger battery pack than add a generator. A generator and fuel would probably add 500 pounds. Just add 500 pounds of batteries and go further. Much simpler engineering. EV’s are changing so fast. 10 years ago EV’s had a quarter of the range and took three times longer to charge than they do today. The most commonly sold EV’s sold today have 550 kilometers (350 miles) of EPA range and the average V3 Supercharger stop is less than 20 minutes. Where will they be in 10 years. [emoticon].

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