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Cummins12V98
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Road Phantom wrote:I'm nose high with headlights in the oncoming traffic's windshields. I get a lot of flicking lights at night because they think I have my high beams on. Okay, I decided to go ahead with the heavier springs. If she still sags I'll install air bags. I'm told they ride good, since the heavy-duty part is at the bottom of the springs. Thanks.
IMHO you should add air bags and run the truck "LEVEL".
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Cummins12V98
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"What I do not understand is why don't people just buy the right truck to carry and pull the trailer."
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Road Phantom
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(Somethings not right with your numbers)
I weighed my rig at a truck scale for all axles. I'm over 800lbs. Wife, hitch weight and anything you add up front of the 5th wheel which includes storage, batteries, propane and what ever is in the front wardrobe and under the bed storage, adds a percentage to weight transferred to the hitch weight on the bed of the truck. I think you should get your rig weighed again for all axles for a real world weight.
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goducks10
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Road Phantom wrote:(Somethings not right with your numbers)
I weighed my rig at a truck scale for all axles. I'm over 800lbs. Wife, hitch weight and anything you add up front of the 5th wheel which includes storage, batteries, propane and what ever is in the front wardrobe and under the bed storage, adds a percentage to weight transferred to the hitch weight on the bed of the truck. I think you should get your rig weighed again for all axles for a real world weight.
LOL, I live in Oregon. Our scales are on all the time. Even when closed the digital readout is showing. We have scales all over our hwys. I've stopped many times for giggles just to check.
I fail to see how your truck will sag so much that your headlights are pointing up too far.
1800 lbs only dropped my rear a tad less that 2". There's a 3" difference between the front and rear fender heights. I could see your issue happening if your truck has a front leveling kit.
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Slownsy
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I think you are reading it wrong, front still lower than rear, but if rear sags 2” then head lights points op higher and blinds oncoming drivers.
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goducks10
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Slownsy wrote:I think you are reading it wrong, front still lower than rear, but if rear sags 2” then head lights points op higher and blinds oncoming drivers.
I get what you're saying. I'm on my 3rd Ram and have never had that issue happen when hitched up, whether with a TT or a 5er.
I wonder if your headlights are set right to begin with?
Not trying to be condescending or anything like that. I'm just replying based on my real world experience after owning two 2500's and never had a headlight issue.
I towed my 5er for 6 years and towed a TT with a 1350 lb TW and that did raise the front up a 1/2 " or so after hitching up. Rear dropped 1.5 or so. Still didn't have a headlight issue.
I realize you have 200 lbs more for pin but like you mentioned your rear sags about the same as my 1800 lbs did.
Every truck owner that tows or hauls anything heavy has the rear end drop. Some less than 2" some a little more than 2". Never read much about headlights too high in those circumstances. A 2" drop should be well within OEM headlight angles as to not bother on coming traffic.
Assuming you trucks all stock I think I'd get the headlights checked out.
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TravelinDog
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Since a few of you guys have Ram pick-ups let me ask about your real world experience.
The 5er my wife is looking at has an advertised hitch weight of 2580lbs so I'm sure actual loaded hitch weight will be at least 2800lbs. I'm wondering how much my 2500 Ram will sag.
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TravelinDog wrote:Since a few of you guys have Ram pick-ups let me ask about your real world experience.
The 5er my wife is looking at has an advertised hitch weight of 2580lbs so I'm sure actual loaded hitch weight will be at least 2800lbs. I'm wondering how much my 2500 Ram will sag.
For a real world pin weight estimate use 20% or the trailer GVWR. Forget the brochure numbers.
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I would say typical pin weights run 500 to 1000 pounds over the brochure dry weight, maybe even more depending on location of storage areas and floor plans.
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I agree with Michelle's post. What 2500 Ram do you have? Some years/models can carry more than others, with little sag. The RAWR varies from model years too. I think you will likely need suspension help to level truck, with a pin approaching 3K.
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