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This kind of thing is already common in Europe and gas stations numbers have been on the decline for awhile. But that was more due to land values and fuel efficiency etc. Now It’s EV’s that are starting to cause that pressure. Obviously more so in Europe but this kind of thing will become more common as 5000 more vehicles per day hit the road without gas tanks.

Our town has gained two and lost four in the last 6 or 7 years. The smaller ones seem to be disappearing here.

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Probably more of a California thing in the foreseeable future. Haven’t really seen any smaller stations closing around here. But they have built a lot of large 15 to 20 pump stations, with some even more than 20 pumps, the last few years.

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I don’t think anyone will miss gas stations down town anywhere. Replace them with a great Italian coffe place that has great scones and I’m good. Maybe a dozen L3 urban chargers in the parking lot. [emoticon]. To each his own.

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Heh heh. I’ve actually had some pretty good coffee at a gas stations over the years. But most gas station coffee “es para lavar los platos” as they say in Spain. [emoticon]. I’m not a Starbucks fan but Paneras is pretty good. Thinkin they won’t be opening up at a gas station anytime soon. [emoticon].

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I can't wait to see what happens in California. They are outlawing ICE powered cars and don't have enough electricity to recharge the electrics. This is going to be fun to watch.

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Small independent gas stations died in the US years ago.

Over the past years of full-timing we've noticed a couple changes from our youth.

The best two corners in any area with much traffic have a CVS and a Walgreens sitting on them. Followed by banks or a Starbucks.

While the oil company owned stores are still around, they are much more interested in selling you a cup of coffee, a soda, beer, or something to eat.

In Texas I'm seeing brands bringing more food offerings and such into their gas stations. Clean restrooms is a big driver of gas station usage in Texas. Exxon with their Texas Best branded locations, GEFCO. Of course they are trying to offer something similar to Buc-ee's just on a less than mega store size.

About 6 years ago, I saw several Exxon, Shell, Valero stations adding EV charging stations in northern and eastern Texas. Most of those have removed the charging stations now. I've seen few charging stations elsewhere, but we haven't been to CA since 2017.

I still say the EV 'switch' in the US will not happen until at least 2030, likely closer to 2040.

5,000 EV per day in the US equals about 140,000 new cars in Feb 2021 - a bit less than 1% of total new car sales in Feb 2021 - Source

Okay, 5,000 new EV each day in the US against 555,000 new not EV vehicles every day in the US. A surprisingly high total IMHO, but I only found the source. I haven't counted the titles.

Even if the high number is ten times higher than normal, non EV in the US are still outselling EV 10 to 1.

With those proportions, I don't see EV threatening to make non-EV fuelstations disappear anytime soon.

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Great, we can't allow someone to start a business on their own property, does that belong in this country? Do we want the European style controls?





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Matt_Colie wrote:

I can't wait to see what happens in California. They are outlawing ICE powered cars and don't have enough electricity to recharge the electrics. This is going to be fun to watch.

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They already dumped much of their electricity production and water needs on neighboring states, and then point to the progress they made.

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Someone introduced a bill in the Oregon legislature to ban the sale of diesel. This is so well thought out since trains, semis and I think most cargo ships burn diesel.

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And in the US, EV's a rare except the west coast.

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