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philh

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Once you look at loaded pin wt, you're probably in dually territory
SPECIFICATIONS
Hitch Weight:2220 lb.
GVWR:18000 lb.
UVW 13064 lb.
CCC 4936 lb.

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dieseldan723 wrote:

Cummins2014, thank you for the information. According to the Dodge website, when I enter the VIN of the truck I am considering, it says the Max Payload is 3954 lbs and the Max Towing is 24,734. I thought I would be fine with that trailer?

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Here is the website https://www.ramtrucks.com/towing/towing-guide.html

Click on the "Look Up My Vehicle" and enter a VIN.



When you start adding up those numbers ,you will find most likely a SRW is going to be overloaded, as said in previous post ,you are most likely in dually territory . Roughly the truck is 8K ,the fifth wheel is 18K ,thats 26K . I think thats how it works .

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I also experienced the same issue as LADYRVer with the slide binding the tailgate.
(2006 Dodge MegaCab with 6'4" box, 2008 KZ Dorango, 1/2ton)

Solution was installing a Reese Sidewinder, worked like a charm.

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I also experienced the same issue as LADYRVer with the slide binding the tailgate.
(2006 Dodge MegaCab with 6'4" box, 2008 KZ Dorango, 1/2ton)

Solution was installing a Reese Sidewinder, worked like a charm.

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GPG52 wrote:

I also experienced the same issue as LADYRVer with the slide binding the tailgate.
(2006 Dodge MegaCab with 6'4" box, 2008 KZ Dorango, 1/2ton)

Solution was installing a Reese Sidewinder, worked like a charm.


Another good solution is the Andersen hitch .

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GPG52 wrote:

I also experienced the same issue as LADYRVer with the slide binding the tailgate.
(2006 Dodge MegaCab with 6'4" box, 2008 KZ Dorango, 1/2ton)

Solution was installing a Reese Sidewinder, worked like a charm.

LadyRVer has a GM truck so not apples vs oranges in the OP question about a Ram truck and your Dodge. Lots of difference in C/A dimensions between the GM and the Dodge/Ram trucks.
I had to mod (cut at a angle) the aft of my old '97 5er's pin box to clear the tailgate and truck bed side rails. My pin is zero over the rear axle for max slide distance away from the cab.
I never use the slider going forward but really like the 10" it slides the pin behind the rear axle for quicker steering response and less steering input.

I use my short bed Dodge/Cummins for a 36' GN triaxle stock trailer and the 32' 5th wheel trailer.


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philh wrote:

Once you look at loaded pin wt, you're probably in dually territory
SPECIFICATIONS
Hitch Weight:2220 lb.
GVWR:18000 lb.
UVW 13064 lb.
CCC 4936 lb.


Thanks for your wisdom. Here are the numbers listed on the truck from the dealer website:
Gross Axle Wt Rating - Front (lbs): 6000
Gross Axle Wt Rating - Rear (lbs): 7000
Curb Weight - Front (lbs): 3892
Curb Weight - Rear (lbs): 2866
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap (lbs): 11800
Gross Combined Wt Rating (lbs): 32580
Gross Combined Wt Rating (lbs): 21500

Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 5000
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 500
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 23000
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 14270
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 2300
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 1427
Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 23520
Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 14090
Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 5880
Fifth Wheel Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 3522
Maximum Trailering Capacity (lbs): 23000
Maximum Trailering Capacity (lbs): 14270

Looks like the trailer we are interested in will fit within these parameters?

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cummins2014 wrote:

GPG52 wrote:

I also experienced the same issue as LADYRVer with the slide binding the tailgate.
(2006 Dodge MegaCab with 6'4" box, 2008 KZ Dorango, 1/2ton)

Solution was installing a Reese Sidewinder, worked like a charm.


Another good solution is the Andersen hitch .


This is what we use. Love it but have a healthy respect for the turning radius. I can turn tighter with this setup than I used to with the old TT. Can’t turn 90° but it is tight enough for me.


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I really am not sure never having a 5th wheel before what the pre-occupation is with being able to turn 90 degrees. I can't even get close and have never had to with any of my TTs and have never had an issue maneuvering anywhere. I do understand that you can damage the truck and trailer if you turn too sharp but just don't see the need for it.

Not sure what I am missing with this. Sorry if I stole the OPS thread.


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CaLBaR wrote:

I really am not sure never having a 5th wheel before what the pre-occupation is with being able to turn 90 degrees. I can't even get close and have never had to with any of my TTs and have never had an issue maneuvering anywhere. I do understand that you can damage the truck and trailer if you turn too sharp but just don't see the need for it.

Not sure what I am missing with this. Sorry if I stole the OPS thread.


Not at all, I feel the same way. I am not going to back my fifth wheel 90 degrees. Never understood it. I have backed into some very tight spots, and have never seen the need for 90 degrees . It gets talked about a lot for whatever reason.

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