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Do they pay to plug in and charge?


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bguy wrote:

Do they pay to plug in and charge?


Yep. Well, some of the earlier buyers got free lifetime charging but most of us pay to play. [emoticon].

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bguy wrote:

Do they pay to plug in and charge?


Yep. Well, some of the earlier buyers got free lifetime charging but most of us pay to play. [emoticon].


What is your cost per km for energy in day to day use?

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noteven wrote:

Reisender wrote:

bguy wrote:

Do they pay to plug in and charge?


Yep. Well, some of the earlier buyers got free lifetime charging but most of us pay to play. [emoticon].


What is your cost per km for energy in day to day use?


Well, life time kilometres per kWh for our leaf after 4 and a bit years was 6.4 kilometres per kWh. We pay 9 cents per kWh. There was no other maintenance other than washer fluid in four years.

We haven’t tracked the Tesla but I’m told it’s more efficient. We have had it a little over a year. Same thing. Only washer fluid for maintenance.

Superchargers are about 3 times as expensive as charging at home. They are generally only used on road trips. The vast majority of charging is done at home or work.

Hope that helps.

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What does this have to do with towing? I love the cars but...........


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Reisender wrote:

noteven wrote:

Reisender wrote:

bguy wrote:

Do they pay to plug in and charge?


Yep. Well, some of the earlier buyers got free lifetime charging but most of us pay to play. [emoticon].


What is your cost per km for energy in day to day use?


Well, life time kilometres per kWh for our leaf after 4 and a bit years was 6.4 kilometres per kWh. We pay 9 cents per kWh. There was no other maintenance other than washer fluid in four years.

We haven’t tracked the Tesla but I’m told it’s more efficient. We have had it a little over a year. Same thing. Only washer fluid for maintenance.

Superchargers are about 3 times as expensive as charging at home. They are generally only used on road trips. The vast majority of charging is done at home or work.

Hope that helps.


That is interesting - here in AB it is not uncommon for non city people to run a set of wheels for 300,000km. The electric vehicle would cost $4200 approx for energy at home. A fuel efficient gas passenger car about $27,000 for gas and my F350 about $54,000. [emoticon]

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bucky wrote:

What does this have to do with towing? I love the cars but...........


Well, within a year at least 4 companies will have EV 1/2 to trucks and come will tow with them. As well, people are already towing with EV SUV’s. Especially those little tear drop trailers. So there is some relevance.

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noteven wrote:

Reisender wrote:

noteven wrote:

Reisender wrote:

bguy wrote:

Do they pay to plug in and charge?


Yep. Well, some of the earlier buyers got free lifetime charging but most of us pay to play. [emoticon].


What is your cost per km for energy in day to day use?


Well, life time kilometres per kWh for our leaf after 4 and a bit years was 6.4 kilometres per kWh. We pay 9 cents per kWh. There was no other maintenance other than washer fluid in four years.

We haven’t tracked the Tesla but I’m told it’s more efficient. We have had it a little over a year. Same thing. Only washer fluid for maintenance.

Superchargers are about 3 times as expensive as charging at home. They are generally only used on road trips. The vast majority of charging is done at home or work.

Hope that helps.


That is interesting - here in AB it is not uncommon for non city people to run a set of wheels for 300,000km. The electric vehicle would cost $4200 approx for energy at home. A fuel efficient gas passenger car about $27,000 for gas and my F350 about $54,000. [emoticon]


Yah. The golden number in western Canada is about 1/8 the cost to run an EV over an ICE. But of course it varies depending on what you are comparing it too and the price of electricity. When people ask as us how much their electricity bill goes up we tell them to look at their last months gasoline bill and divide it by six. So instead of a 240 dollar gas bill your electric bill will go up 40 bucks. Plus of course no oil, filters, hoses, belts or brakes to maintain. Kinda cool

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noteven wrote:

Reisender wrote:

noteven wrote:

Reisender wrote:

bguy wrote:

Do they pay to plug in and charge?


Yep. Well, some of the earlier buyers got free lifetime charging but most of us pay to play. [emoticon].


What is your cost per km for energy in day to day use?


Well, life time kilometres per kWh for our leaf after 4 and a bit years was 6.4 kilometres per kWh. We pay 9 cents per kWh. There was no other maintenance other than washer fluid in four years.

We haven’t tracked the Tesla but I’m told it’s more efficient. We have had it a little over a year. Same thing. Only washer fluid for maintenance.

Superchargers are about 3 times as expensive as charging at home. They are generally only used on road trips. The vast majority of charging is done at home or work.

Hope that helps.


That is interesting - here in AB it is not uncommon for non city people to run a set of wheels for 300,000km. The electric vehicle would cost $4200 approx for energy at home. A fuel efficient gas passenger car about $27,000 for gas and my F350 about $54,000. [emoticon]
Even at 20,000 miles per year, that will take about 9 years to accrue that many miles. Using an EV that much, will the batteries last 9 years, and should that be figured into the overall cost?


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fj12ryder wrote:

noteven wrote:

Reisender wrote:

noteven wrote:

Reisender wrote:

bguy wrote:

Do they pay to plug in and charge?


Yep. Well, some of the earlier buyers got free lifetime charging but most of us pay to play. [emoticon].


What is your cost per km for energy in day to day use?


Well, life time kilometres per kWh for our leaf after 4 and a bit years was 6.4 kilometres per kWh. We pay 9 cents per kWh. There was no other maintenance other than washer fluid in four years.

We haven’t tracked the Tesla but I’m told it’s more efficient. We have had it a little over a year. Same thing. Only washer fluid for maintenance.

Superchargers are about 3 times as expensive as charging at home. They are generally only used on road trips. The vast majority of charging is done at home or work.

Hope that helps.


That is interesting - here in AB it is not uncommon for non city people to run a set of wheels for 300,000km. The electric vehicle would cost $4200 approx for energy at home. A fuel efficient gas passenger car about $27,000 for gas and my F350 about $54,000. [emoticon]
Even at 20,000 miles per year, that will take about 9 years to accrue that many miles. Using an EV that much, will the batteries last 9 years, and should that be figured into the overall cost?


Who knows. But most companies warranty their batteries from 8 to 10 years. Some of the earlier EV batteries from 8 to 10 years ago have north of 400,000 kilometres on them. Our local cab company has a fleet of model S Tesla’s all from around 2014 that all have super high mileage. But, like I say, ask me in 12 years. [emoticon].

The tabless batteries going into the model S plaid, Cybertruck and semi are expected to have lifetimes in excess of a million kilometres.

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