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Mondooker

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Posted: 05/16/21 11:19am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ok look, I understand diesels hold more storage, can hold and have heavier stuff. I also understand diesels have air bags and may/may not have a better ride and may/may not pull more and may/may not be quieter. But that all comes at a price!

For the sake of this conversation let’s agree on a few perimeters.
A top of the line gasser lists around $225.000.00.
A compatible diesel will be around $300,000.00.

So let’s keep our conversation located there. I don’t want someone jumping in with “hey I have a new Newmar Mountain Air and it’s better than a gasser. If you do that I’ll be prone to say something like “Im very happy for you but you’re an idiot”!

I recently spent a good amount of time in a 2021 Entegra Emblem and 2021 Coachmen Encore. Both had the new Ford V8 and the new F53 chassis. And I’m here to tell you the gas vs diesel has been blurred to say the least.

You take the difference in price and the price to maintain them and the gas stands out as an obvious winner. I’ll hear diesel owners say “Oh mine goes up hill faster” and I counter with “Have you gone somewhere a gas coach can’t”? All I hear then is Crickets. And then there’s “Oh but my diesel will go 500,000 miles and a gas will do half of that. And I say “Yes and for what you pay to rebuild your diesel, I can put in a new engine and transmission and have money left over for a month out west and summer in Alaska”! Yes more crickets.

The prevailing wisdom has been. Their all the same at the park and there's a lot of truth to that. But getting there has become much better in the new top tear gassers. I’m not saying there’s not good reasons to buy a diesel because there are. Just be smart and not buy one because someone says a diesel is better. Because that’s not necessarily right for you.

I was recently talking to someone with a known RV channel who have a Newmar BayStar and love the Coach. But they really-really-really want a diesel as soon as the can! Silly me I asked why? They looked at me as much to say “What’s wrong with you”? And I admit it’s a multiple choice questions. But if they were honest when we were done talking, they no longer had the same assurance as when the conversation started.

Get what you want but get if for the right reason and whisking a gas coach away because it’s a gas coach could be a huge mistake! Folks will add remarks below as they should. But be open minded and grounded into what you really need and then what you want will fill in nicely! Find the floorplan you like, that’s critical mass right there!

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We have had two great gas coaches (Winnebago) and are on our second DP. The DPs cost much more to buy and maintain but they pay back in ride, handling, lack of engine noise and range. We have travelled over 200,000 miles in our RV. We like our current coach the best but the others were fine.


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Posted: 05/16/21 11:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hey Ed, Why did you go from gas to diesel?

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The ride, handling, lack of engine noise etc. and we could afford it!

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Nothing wrong with having your mind made up.

People have different needs and wants and they don't always line up with our own.

That's the good thing about having choices. You don't have to settle for what someone else likes.

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Hi Mike , Good post and you’re right of course. After rereading my initial post it came off more matter of fact than I intended. I think I was just surprised at how nice the top end gas class A’s are. Spending time in them really had an impact that was very different than I expected. It didn’t match up with many things I’d heard over the years.

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With the new V-8 Gasser, engine noise , while still greater than it is with the rear engine, it should not be overwhelming anymore, due to the lower rev's. And on the the new gas model, what transmission did it have? I dont know if they are getting 10 speeds out yet, but if not, that should help on both driving and noise even more.

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All my gasoline is free...or at least that's how I look at it.

When we bought our new gas Monaco in 2004 we were debating between our $110,000 gasser or a $170,000 diesel that we liked.

We decided $60,000 would buy a lot of gas and I've think we've spent it over the past 95,000 miles.

If I had it to do over I would do the same thing.


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Posted: 05/16/21 06:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Mondooker wrote:

Ok look, I have a new Newmar Mountain Air and it’s better than a gasser.


I have an old Newmar and it is still better than any gas rig.


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Engine noise is my number one concern.


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