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Posted: 06/03/21 05:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ivylog-you are correct, I have never used one of the fire pits. I do own property where we enforce a NO open flame other than cook stoves when the fire danger gets high. The property is used by family and friends only and they understand our desire to keep the property and them safe.


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Posted: 06/04/21 09:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You really need to check with the local authorities or campground host. When I stayed at a Texas state park during a fire ban, they didn't even allow outdoor propane stoves, let alone fire pits.


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We are currently in "Red Flag Warning"


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It is possible that even propane campfires are impermissible when boondocking in extreme drought conditions. For example, this is from the Inyo National Forest website, effective May 24, 2021:


Campfires allowed only in fire pits provided in developed campgrounds, see Exhibit A. (That exhibit lists the campgrounds.)

A portable stove or lantern using gas, jellied petroleum or pressurized liquid fuel may be used with a valid wilderness permit. Dispersed camping requires a valid CA Campfire Permit for stove or lantern use.

No fireworks.

No smoking, except within an enclosed vehicle, building, a developed recreation site, or in an area at least 3 ft in diameter cleared of flammable material.


So if you classify a propane fire ring as a campfire, that seems to mean that you can't use it at all when boondocking. But if you classify a propane fire ring as a stove, then maybe you can use it, as long as you have a permit?

Personally, speaking as a drought-scarred Californian, we do not have any outdoor flame when boondocking. If you cause a forest fire, you could be ruined financially. And you'd feel bad, too. [emoticon]


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Posted: 06/04/21 01:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

enblethen wrote:

We are currently in "Red Flag Warning"


Propane fire pit use is still acceptable Link

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Seems like the rules on fires cover a lot of territory and are open to interpretation by campers, authorities and a lot of those self-appointed who think they know everything about anything and go out of their way to tell you that.

My solution is simple - I built an LED fire pit in a small bucket. Puts out all the ambience of a real campfire (flickering flames and all) without the heat or danger of starting a real fire, it can be totally extinguished by just unplugging, can easily run off the inverter when boondocking and as an added benefit there's no smoke, fumes or hot ash that always seems to follow some people with real campfires. The only downside is it can't roast hot dogs or do S'mores.

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ScottG: That is King county. Parts of Douglas, Chelan and Grant counties are under fire warning. Red flag comes down tonight at 10 hopefully

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enblethen wrote:

ScottG: That is King county. Parts of Douglas, Chelan and Grant counties are under fire warning. Red flag comes down tonight at 10 hopefully



A portable propane fire pit is OK now in all of those and for the 6~7 years I we have been using one, they have never been banned in state CG's. If I'm missing something, plz school me! [emoticon]

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Did you look at the RED bar on the chart on the link I posted earlier?

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enblethen wrote:

Did you look at the RED bar on the chart on the link I posted earlier?


According to this site Link, Recreational fires in approved devices in CG's are still allowed. But that looks outdated.. At any rate, we aren't talking about right this minute and every square inch of every state. We're talking generalities.

There may have been times when even PP firepits were banned but if there were, they were very rare and the OP's question about being able to use one of them in a (Wa) CG during normal fire bans is in my experience a pretty safe bet. Definitely worth bringing along on his trip.

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