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ognend

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Posted: 06/13/21 07:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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I got the f350 srw 11300 gvwr, if registered that way it is right at $100 more to register annually. Tell them 10000 gvwr and a cheaper registration annually.


Yeah but what happens if you are pulled over and they realize your tags don't match real GVWR? Besides I am talking about a 14,000 lbs gvwr dually [emoticon]


Yeah[emoticon]. Because that happens so often I've never seen nor heard of it happening to anyone in 40 years of driving.


Slap your head all you want [emoticon] but what you are suggesting is technically fraud (tax evasion), no? I know my vehicle is 14,000 lbs GVWR, it says so on the sticker and I go and tell them it is 10,000 lbs GVWR... No shooting offense but why willingly put yourself in a situation where you can be dragged through the system. I am pretty sure nobody will pull you over for fun and check your tags for correct weights but it MAY happen if you were involved in a (serious) accident, no?


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Just from a non-Virginia resident perspective, if I were there needing to register a new vehicle there, I would go to the DMV site and download the Vehicle Registration Application (VSA 14).

It looks like the information you’re concerned with is in the Vehicle Information section, on the line I’ve highlighted.

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The GVWR box is easy, just put the mfgr’s number in there. It even says “manufacturer” in that box. The “Empty Weight”, “Gross Weight”, and “GCWR Combined Weight” boxes look to me like they are wanting actual weights. I would put either the actual scaled weights, or a good-faith approximation of what the weights really are. Rounding up instead of down might be wise.

That’s just the “some guy on the inter-webs” interpretation, which may be worth exactly what you paid for it. Nothing.

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We have hauled both horse trailers and enclosed car trailers through VA for 30+ years with a F-350 DRW and have never been stopped or weighed. I did weigh the enclosed once loaded with the truck just to see what it weighed and it was 22,000+. We have no weighted tags just permanent trailer tags and the truck is registered as a MPV, no weight limit. Every state is different.

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Posted: 06/13/21 10:37am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ognend wrote:

GDS-3950BH wrote:

ognend wrote:

Birdnst wrote:

I got the f350 srw 11300 gvwr, if registered that way it is right at $100 more to register annually. Tell them 10000 gvwr and a cheaper registration annually.


Yeah but what happens if you are pulled over and they realize your tags don't match real GVWR? Besides I am talking about a 14,000 lbs gvwr dually [emoticon]


Yeah[emoticon]. Because that happens so often I've never seen nor heard of it happening to anyone in 40 years of driving.


Slap your head all you want [emoticon] but what you are suggesting is technically fraud (tax evasion), no? I know my vehicle is 14,000 lbs GVWR, it says so on the sticker and I go and tell them it is 10,000 lbs GVWR... No shooting offense but why willingly put yourself in a situation where you can be dragged through the system. I am pretty sure nobody will pull you over for fun and check your tags for correct weights but it MAY happen if you were involved in a (serious) accident, no?


No and No......unless you like drama. It's a non issue unless you are operating commercially in VA. [emoticon] [emoticon] [emoticon]

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that "26,000lb" number seems to be a common weight for comercial vehicles that must stop at a weigh station. under that weight and comercial and in many states still no need to stop.

Nor do you need to register it as comercial if you use it for personal use in most/all states.

But AFAIK and hav experienced, if you are not hauling for hire or for a comercial company, most weigh stations will get annoyed to say the least if you stop even if you are over the 26,000 combined weight.


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I believe you have allready answered your own question. Even if you are not running commercial you will need to register full weight so that you will not feel you are committing fraud or afraid of being caught.
Question was answered in your mind before you ever asked.


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Posted: 06/14/21 05:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A rv forum is the last place anyone should seriously ask how do I register or how does my state register a motor vehicle.
Always see your local DPS tag office/registration office first as you have to deal with them regardless of what we say.


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Just great. Advice to lie and commit fraud to save a hundred bucks. What else would you do to save a few bucks?


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If you are not commercial and will not use full gvwr then please explain fraud. With this situation might be better to stay in your own state.

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