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Posted: 06/19/21 11:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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I want the USA to end all land crossing restrictions on June 21st. Then our border cities can start to recover and Canadian RV'ers can escape Canada.

If only your or my wishes had any weight. They have already extended the closure to the 21st of JULY - not June.

With such a low number of active cases In Canada it is safer for the US (and Mexico) to let Canadians in, than for Canada to open its border to anybody. But I don't think the unilateral end of the closure is going to happen, this will cause too much political tensions.

OTH, active cases in Mexico are - very likely - same high as in the USA, their 0.16 per 100 people is a joke because they only test very sick people. I wrote this before, Mexico now have as many active cases as the USA and ~50 times more than in Canada. They just don't report it. It won't make things worse if the US open their border with Mexico Northbound, since both countries are in the same shape now. Had Mexico kept their border closed all this time, they could've flattened/delayed the number of active cases (and deaths), but this ship has already sailed.

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It's impossible to compare the numbers from Mexico to those from the US and Canada. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

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It appears that Canada has decided not to open their land border for months to come. Canadians RVer's should prepare for workarounds or be locked down for another winter.


Canada to lift some border restrictions July 5; next steps months awayhttps://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-lift-some-border-restrictions-july-5-foreign-travelers-still-excluded-2021-06-21/?fbclid=IwAR0rIshwZwHpkl6wRWK0YnjIAv3jBBlOL0ZDFZD8H4J5rrdaS1FaLd-t53Y

Here is some of the "Science" Canada is using.


"Trudeau addressed this on Friday at a press conference, acknowledging the ongoing border closure “is frustrating.”

He explained that although fully vaccinated Canadians wanting to travel may be protected against hospitalizations, “it does not protect the community around you from catching COVID-19 from you.”

REALLY???????

and the article

https://globalnews.ca/news/7961418/covid-canada-us-border-closed-july-21/

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"In fact, most vaccines don't fully protect against infection, even if they can block symptoms from appearing. As a result, vaccinated people can unknowingly carry and spread pathogens. Occasionally, they can even start epidemics."

Unfortunately, had Canada, the U.S., and Mexico followed those precautions initially, we wouldn't be in this current situation, less death and severe life-long illnesses, a rapid return to a vibrant economy, and free to travel all of North America.


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playaboy wrote:

Canada can stay closed for as long as they want. I want the USA to end all land crossing restrictions on June 21st. Then our border cities can start to recover and Canadian RV'ers can escape Canada.


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Mexico opened registration today for the people 30 years of age and older. It's getting done.

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So far neither the US or Canada have opened their borders. But Trudeau is getting complaints from othe Liberals,US politicians and many citizens. Today he appears to be backing down. There will be changes shortly. Not months but weeks. It is about time. My guess is that the pressure from the US was very strong
He was making of himself. But there could be some surprises from the US regarding Mexico.

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Oh my goodness! Look up numbers and facts. Use a calculator. Compare locked down masked up states in the US with states that did not lock down. There's no proof that any draconian restrictions had any measurable effect on the spread of Covid-19.
Heck, FOI made public emails from Dr.Fauci himself admitting that masks weren't effective and still some folks aren't swayed. It's got to be a form of Neurosis that causes people to vaccinate children, shut down schools, or wear masks outdoors to protect against a virus that is 99.7% survivable (unless you are a child ).
The damage done to individuals health, commerce, societal health, and economies by far outstrips whatever minuscule protections one might imagine lock downs might possibly provide.





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The interesting part is nothing has changed in terms of our way of thinking in the last 100 years. Human beings are so predictable.

No wonder they say "history repeats itself". Boy, have I seen a lot of that in the last two years.

In the end, Mother Nature will win, she always does.

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Let's calm down. Nobody should be censored. We don't need "Closed: Border opening" part 2

The land and air border restrictions will be in place for another month. After that??????????????????

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